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2008-11-19 05:30:32

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7164

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Discussed about somalian pirates seizing a tanker, i suggested security guards, he just saying how it would cause more conflicts. Stupid fucking people

[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
yeah but its for a crew
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
dude im surpriszed they can seize shit
playboy6902@hotmail.com says:
but like avg. they get that much. they are going to get more.
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
coz its not like they have a frigate
playboy6902@hotmail.com says:
yeh
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
like they have dingy boats with AKS
playboy6902@hotmail.com says:
haha
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
not that hard to stop
playboy6902@hotmail.com says:
yeh
playboy6902@hotmail.com says:
well
playboy6902@hotmail.com says:
the pirates have some really good shit too
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
like what
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
RPGS
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
dingy boats
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
lol all the tankers need to do is slap on some turrets
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
then theyre fine
playboy6902@hotmail.com says:
just in Oct. the pirates have gotten $30m from ransom
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
30m will buy you guns, not a bloody frigate lol
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
thats why these ships need escorts
playboy6902@hotmail.com says:
lol no, the pirates must be more powerful than that, just think about it.
playboy6902@hotmail.com says:
if they dont, they wont be getting that much $.
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
no...
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
its coz the boats are worth shit loads
playboy6902@hotmail.com says:
and even wont be able to seize that saidi boat
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
ok
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
theres no security at all on those boats
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
think about it
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
you know theres no smoking signs right?
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
what if you fired a gun
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
whole boat goes boom
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
all they need is to set up a sniper section and hire some snipers
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
then situation solved
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
skinny's wont be able to board
playboy6902@hotmail.com says:
they cant just shoot people that
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
international waters
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
you can shoot anyone
playboy6902@hotmail.com says:
that will just bring in more conflicts.
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
dude
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
theyre fucking pirates
playboy6902@hotmail.com says:
If they can do that, they would have done that already.
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
because theyre cheap k
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
they never thought the pirates will go that far out at see
playboy6902@hotmail.com says:
no, they are not cheap.
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
people wont spend money on security till shit happens
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
now you will see more tankers with escorts
playboy6902@hotmail.com says:
pirates seizing boats happen all the time, they do know that.
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
but when would you know that theres a pirate in the middle of the fucking ocean
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
you need a pretty good boat to get that far out at sea
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
ie a tanker
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
no one would thought pirates would go that far
playboy6902@hotmail.com says:
that is true, however, no one can take that blame.
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
the tankers can because theyre too stupid not to hire securit
playboy6902@hotmail.com says:
People will just end up bombing each other and oil price and stuff would go up.
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
dude
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
they are fucking pirats
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
what difference does it make
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
dude wtf are you on
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
security is there to protect
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
its liek saying omg more police will cause riots
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
there is a difference
playboy6902@hotmail.com says:
no, but what you are saying is to shoot people in random.
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
ok what solution would you have to stop pirots
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
ok youre just retarded
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
if someone is coming at your boat
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
with aks and rpgs
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
wont you think they wanna take it?
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
its not liek theyre on a fucking cruise boat
playboy6902@hotmail.com says:
Somolia and other ME countries have foreign policies that they have to follow
playboy6902@hotmail.com says:
It is not like they are not doing anything.
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
lol somalia
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
its a fucking wasteland
playboy6902@hotmail.com says:
what you are saying is just like saying "why do people still get rob when we have cops around?"
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
they have no solid government ok
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
and theyre fucking pirates k, tnoghint to do really with somalia
playboy6902@hotmail.com says:
It is in your opinion that Somalia is a "fucking wasteland"
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
id like to see how you can say somalia is not a wasteland
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
its like blaming australian foreign policy if some crazy aussie goes on a shooting rampage somehwere else
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
actions of citizens does not represent the actions of a nation
playboy6902@hotmail.com says:
There will be no public figure that will say that Somalia is a wasteland.
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
and somalia is a fucking shithole
playboy6902@hotmail.com says:
And that is why we have the UN dealing with Somalia's issues.
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
just because some politician doesnt say so doesnt mean its not
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
if UN needs to help with your coutnry, its a shithole
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
especially when they send peacekeepers
playboy6902@hotmail.com says:
We are dealing with international policies and politics, only important public figures will make a diff.
playboy6902@hotmail.com says:
Yes, and that is why UN is there to help.
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
dude
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
pirates arent fucking following policies
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
what part of that do you not get
playboy6902@hotmail.com says:
yes, they are not.
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
so why not tankers hire security guards
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
cheap and efficient
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
and why the fuck would they shoot at random shit anyways
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
theyre body guards
playboy6902@hotmail.com says:
Okay, hire security guards, good.
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
not an assault force
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
slap on some guns on that shit then youre fine
playboy6902@hotmail.com says:
yes, it is just like Bush. "Iraq needs our help", yeh that sounds pretty nice, but look at the shit that Bush has done to Iraq.
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
dude youre just being retarded
playboy6902@hotmail.com says:
no, you are being retarded.
playboy6902@hotmail.com says:
It all depends on who is carrying the policy.
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
dude
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
its a fucking tanker
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
with security guards
playboy6902@hotmail.com says:
From you, it is defi. going to be a big mess with all your guys and security guards.
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
how the fuck is that a problem
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
you cant compare to iraq
playboy6902@hotmail.com says:
I am comparing to the impact that it would bring.
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
yeah killing pirates
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
good ridance
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
its not like theyre gonna fucking invade a country
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
its an oil tanker
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
for fucks sake

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2008-11-19 05:36:16

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6600|what

Who will police the police?

Arming these tankers, may make the pirates more susceptible to arm themselves and use stronger force. They are desperately trying to fight crippling poverty and have turned to piracy to survive.

The shipping needs to be done with better protection, yes, but that's what the UN is for. It's a daunting task, but I don't think arming crews and mercenaries to fight off pirates is a planned solution only a rash one.

Last edited by TheAussieReaper (2008-11-19 05:40:35)

2008-11-19 05:40:25

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7164

TheAussieReaper wrote:
Who will police the police?

Arming these tankers, may make the pirates more susceptible to arm themselves and use stronger force. They are desperately trying to fight crippling poverty and have turned to piracy to survive.

The shipping needs to be done with better protection, yes, but that's what the UN is for. It's a daunting task, but I don't think arming crews and mercenaries to fight of pirates is a planned solution only a rash one.

You must get pretty close to the tanker to cause anything, ie pirates in dingy's. Less pirates = better for the world. I doubt they use that money to buy food or support their community tbh.

2008-11-19 05:48:13

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6600|what

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
You must get pretty close to the tanker to cause anything, ie pirates in dingy's. Less pirates = better for the world. I doubt they use that money to buy food or support their community tbh.

I didn't say they would, but they have turned to piracy to survive for themselves. The country is a failed state. There's nothing more to it than that. Piracy might be the only option they have to get out of the country, let alone feed themselves.

As for the pirates in dingy's, they still have rpgs to fire at a tanker full of crude oil. You made that point several times in your conversation with playboy (lol username).

The ecological disaster alone from them cracking the hull of one of these tankers is massive. I am aware that the tankers have multiple hulls, but an oil spill could result from a well place or even reckless explosion, and what if the crude ignites? Millions of dollars worth of crude is lost as well as potentially the lives of crew and pirates.

The UN frigates should be patrolling closer to the Somali coast, or at least co-ordinating with the oil tankers.

Plus, the pirates are navigating using satellite phones, (as well as making their demands on them), it's not hard to track those signals.

2008-11-19 05:48:27

Yaocelotl: :D; +221|7097|Keyboard

[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
its an oil tanker
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
for fucks sake

^^There is what you fail to understand...

What if a pirate crew comes to this oil tanker and they repel the attack, so pirates say "let's blow them". Have you considered that? It's not just an economical impact but also an environmental one. With that said, it's more cheap that they take the bounty than spending time and money to restore all that collateral damage.

Just my 2 cents.

2008-11-19 05:51:44

The A W S M F O X: I Won't Deny It; +172|6132|SQUID

Indian warships are fucking up those somlaian pirates shit up.

2008-11-19 05:52:43

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7164

Yaocelotl wrote:
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
its an oil tanker
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
for fucks sake

^^There is what you fail to understand...

What if a pirate crew comes to this oil tanker and they repel the attack, so pirates say "let's blow them". Have you considered that? It's not just an economical impact but also an environmental one. With that said, it's more cheap that they take the bounty than spending time and money to restore all that collateral damage.

Just my 2 cents.

Snipers k. Anything better/further range would rape.

2008-11-19 05:55:13

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6600|what

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
Snipers k. Anything better/further range would rape.

So pirates decide it'd just be easier to attack at night.

2008-11-19 05:56:40

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7164

TheAussieReaper wrote:
cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
Snipers k. Anything better/further range would rape.
So pirates decide it'd just be easier to attack at night.

Id doubt theyd have that much coordination, naval escorts would be better tbh.

2008-11-19 06:01:49

Jebus: Looking for my Scooper; +218|6212|Belgium

Who's the idiot? cbf reading

2008-11-19 06:02:18

Yaocelotl: :D; +221|7097|Keyboard

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
TheAussieReaper wrote:
cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
Snipers k. Anything better/further range would rape.
So pirates decide it'd just be easier to attack at night.
Id doubt theyd have that much coordination, naval escorts would be better tbh.

"You" doubt it, but they know their shit and they're good at it. Or do you think that stealing a complete oil tanker is like stealing candy from children? It requires quite of logistical thinking/maneuvers there, don't you think?

2008-11-19 06:03:03

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7164

Yaocelotl wrote:
cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
TheAussieReaper wrote:

So pirates decide it'd just be easier to attack at night.
Id doubt theyd have that much coordination, naval escorts would be better tbh.
"You" doubt it, but they know their shit and they're good at it. Or do you think that stealing a complete oil tanker is like stealing candy from children? It requires quite of logistical thinking/maneuvers there, don't you think?

Shit is different at night. Naval escorts ftw either way.

2008-11-19 06:44:59

JoshP: Banned; +176|6136|Notts, UK

Yaocelotl wrote:
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
its an oil tanker
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
for fucks sake

^^There is what you fail to understand...

What if a pirate crew comes to this oil tanker and they repel the attack, so pirates say "let's blow them". Have you considered that? It's not just an economical impact but also an environmental one. With that said, it's more cheap that they take the bounty than spending time and money to restore all that collateral damage.

Just my 2 cents.

wat

oil tankers will not explode (probably) as crude oil isn't flammable

if it was petrol that would be a different matter, but it's not, it's crude oil

2008-11-19 07:02:57

Yaocelotl: :D; +221|7097|Keyboard

JoshP wrote:
Yaocelotl wrote:
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
its an oil tanker
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
for fucks sake

^^There is what you fail to understand...

What if a pirate crew comes to this oil tanker and they repel the attack, so pirates say "let's blow them". Have you considered that? It's not just an economical impact but also an environmental one. With that said, it's more cheap that they take the bounty than spending time and money to restore all that collateral damage.

Just my 2 cents.
wat

oil tankers will not explode (probably) as crude oil isn't flammable

if it was petrol that would be a different matter, but it's not, it's crude oil

So the OPEC has had their facts wrong all this time? Source

2008-11-19 07:21:34

JoshP: Banned; +176|6136|Notts, UK

Yaocelotl wrote:
JoshP wrote:
Yaocelotl wrote:
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
its an oil tanker
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
for fucks sake

^^There is what you fail to understand...

What if a pirate crew comes to this oil tanker and they repel the attack, so pirates say "let's blow them". Have you considered that? It's not just an economical impact but also an environmental one. With that said, it's more cheap that they take the bounty than spending time and money to restore all that collateral damage.

Just my 2 cents.
wat

oil tankers will not explode (probably) as crude oil isn't flammable

if it was petrol that would be a different matter, but it's not, it's crude oil
So the OPEC has had their facts wrong all this time? Source

wat

once you have distilled crude oil into its constituent parts it burns lots (eg petrol)

but crude oil itself is too viscous and has too many long hydrocarbon chains to burn, GSCE science that

2008-11-19 07:22:48

destruktion_6143: Was ist Loos?; +154|7074|Canada

Yaocelotl wrote:
JoshP wrote:
Yaocelotl wrote:
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
its an oil tanker
[INEVE] <0> Cybargs_Ninga says:
for fucks sake

^^There is what you fail to understand...

What if a pirate crew comes to this oil tanker and they repel the attack, so pirates say "let's blow them". Have you considered that? It's not just an economical impact but also an environmental one. With that said, it's more cheap that they take the bounty than spending time and money to restore all that collateral damage.

Just my 2 cents.
wat

oil tankers will not explode (probably) as crude oil isn't flammable

if it was petrol that would be a different matter, but it's not, it's crude oil
So the OPEC has had their facts wrong all this time? Source

lol crude oil isnt flammable? rly!?! lol crude oil is VERY flammable, when pipelines rupture and catch fire, or oil wells catch fire...whats lit on fire> the metal?

And cyborg, the pirates have more than AK's, ever hear of RPG's? that will blow a hole in the hull of a tanker, and spill oil all over the ocean, so you fail.

2008-11-19 07:35:37

JoshP: Banned; +176|6136|Notts, UK

destruktion_6143 wrote:
Yaocelotl wrote:
JoshP wrote:
wat

oil tankers will not explode (probably) as crude oil isn't flammable

if it was petrol that would be a different matter, but it's not, it's crude oil
So the OPEC has had their facts wrong all this time? Source
lol crude oil isnt flammable? rly!?! lol crude oil is VERY flammable, when pipelines rupture and catch fire, or oil wells catch fire...whats lit on fire> the metal?

And cyborg, the pirates have more than AK's, ever hear of RPG's? that will blow a hole in the hull of a tanker, and spill oil all over the ocean, so you fail.

only when it heats up amirite? the burning stuff is natural gas

Last edited by JoshP (2008-11-19 07:35:57)

2008-11-19 07:40:39

Benzin: Member; +576|6446

Blockade the Somali coast. Simple as that. Let through only official things going in and out and no more.

2008-11-19 07:48:06

Yaocelotl: :D; +221|7097|Keyboard

JoshP wrote:
destruktion_6143 wrote:
Yaocelotl wrote:

So the OPEC has had their facts wrong all this time? Source
lol crude oil isnt flammable? rly!?! lol crude oil is VERY flammable, when pipelines rupture and catch fire, or oil wells catch fire...whats lit on fire> the metal?

And cyborg, the pirates have more than AK's, ever hear of RPG's? that will blow a hole in the hull of a tanker, and spill oil all over the ocean, so you fail.
only when it heats up amirite? the burning stuff is natural gas

Dear god, get back to school tbh

2008-11-19 07:59:43

m3thod: All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz; +2,197|7119|UK

JoshP wrote:
destruktion_6143 wrote:
Yaocelotl wrote:
So the OPEC has had their facts wrong all this time? Source
lol crude oil isnt flammable? rly!?! lol crude oil is VERY flammable, when pipelines rupture and catch fire, or oil wells catch fire...whats lit on fire> the metal?

And cyborg, the pirates have more than AK's, ever hear of RPG's? that will blow a hole in the hull of a tanker, and spill oil all over the ocean, so you fail.
only when it heats up amirite? the burning stuff is natural gas

Educate yourself Josh.

http://www.opec.org/library/FAQs/CrudeOil/q1.htm

who on earth reads these dumb IRC goon posts anyway?

Last edited by m3thod (2008-11-19 08:08:25)

Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.

2008-11-19 08:00:32

wensleydale8: Member; +81|7217|LEEDS!!!!!, Yorkshire

TheAussieReaper wrote:
Who will police the police?

Arming these tankers, may make the pirates more susceptible to arm themselves and use stronger force. They are desperately trying to fight crippling poverty and have turned to piracy to survive.

The shipping needs to be done with better protection, yes, but that's what the UN is for. It's a daunting task, but I don't think arming crews and mercenaries to fight off pirates is a planned solution only a rash one.

yes but piracy is wrong end of it doesnt matter if your rich or poor you can easily find some legal way to survive.

Dear God please let my karma one day reach 100, whether it be tomorrow or 1000 years in the future i want it to happen.

2008-11-19 08:08:41

Agent_Dung_Bomb: Member; +302|7183|Salt Lake City

Fuck the pirates, regardless of their reasoning. I say shoot the bastards on site. No questions asked, no survivors.

2008-11-19 08:22:24

Yaocelotl: :D; +221|7097|Keyboard

wensleydale8 wrote:
TheAussieReaper wrote:
Who will police the police?

Arming these tankers, may make the pirates more susceptible to arm themselves and use stronger force. They are desperately trying to fight crippling poverty and have turned to piracy to survive.

The shipping needs to be done with better protection, yes, but that's what the UN is for. It's a daunting task, but I don't think arming crews and mercenaries to fight off pirates is a planned solution only a rash one.
yes but piracy is wrong end of it doesnt matter if your rich or poor you can easily find some illegal way to survive.

Corrected for you

2008-11-19 09:10:21

IrishGrimReaper: Field Marshal | o |; +142|7169|Ireland | Monaghan

Stick a big dirty Nuclear Sub in the middle with some nukes and Atom bomb them cunts. Or, call Peter Pan.

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