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2009-01-15 07:29:55

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02fxnmaurer: Member; +75|6747|Birmingham UK

current rig;

corsair 550w psu
abit ip35 pro mobo
e6750 cpu
320gb samsung spinpoint
8800gt 512mb
antec 900
4gb ocz gold ram @800mhz

samsung2232bw 22" monitor
saitek eclipse 2 keyboard
logitech g5 mouse
logitech x530

basically noticed some of the latest games coming out, have started to struggle im unable to run cod4 on all high etc wit aa, looking to upgrade my pc this year, for around 400/500 pounds, just wondering what you guys think would be the best options to get the better performance.

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2009-01-15 07:43:48

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GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6679|Finland

new gfx card and cpu... thats it...

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atm Q9550 and GTX 260 Core 216 or the GTX 280 if you can find one in stock.

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2009-01-15 08:34:16

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GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
new gfx card and cpu... thats it...

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atm Q9550 and GTX 260 Core 216 or the GTX 280 if you can find one in stock.

This!

Good advice

2009-01-15 08:42:01

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FloppY_: +1,010|6551|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

OC CPU, get a 4870 OC/1GB

No need for a new CPU yet

Personally I would wait another year for an upgrade of that size... save the money and get a new GFX card... then do a full upgrade later when the CPU gets old (which it really is not)...

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2009-01-15 09:16:41

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Finray: Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro; +2,629|6053|Catherine Black

With that CPU you're looking at ~3.8Ghz. If you've still got a stock cooler, buy this. That'll keep it coole enough under OC.
As said, buy a 4870. Probably won't need the 1GB version, what's a 22".. 1650x1050?

2009-01-15 09:23:00

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I really can't see how this system struggles to play COD 4 on high with AA, as I can and my system is far worse than this...

2009-01-15 10:49:56

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FloppY_: +1,010|6551|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

Finray wrote:
With that CPU you're looking at ~3.8Ghz. If you've still got a stock cooler, buy this. That'll keep it coole enough under OC.
As said, buy a 4870. Probably won't need the 1GB version, what's a 22".. 1650x1050?

Oi... I said that..

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2009-01-15 11:21:28

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GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6679|Finland

he is gonna use high resolutions and he can afford the GTX 280. so why are u still wanting him to buy a HD 4870 1GB lol...

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2009-01-15 13:54:03

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Finray wrote:
With that CPU you're looking at ~3.8Ghz. If you've still got a stock cooler, buy this. That'll keep it coole enough under OC.
As said, buy a 4870. Probably won't need the 1GB version, what's a 22".. 1650x1050?

One might just do 3.8GHz 24/7 on that CPU with loads of luck and badass cooling. Learn the differences in CPU architectures...

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2009-01-16 05:59:29

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FloppY_: +1,010|6551|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
he is gonna use high resolutions and he can afford the GTX 280. so why are u still wanting him to buy a HD 4870 1GB lol...

Because spending money unnessesarily is just dumb...

a 4870 would be the best thing for that system as an upgrade and then save the rest of the money for a later build...

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2009-01-16 06:01:49

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GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6679|Finland

FloppY_ wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
he is gonna use high resolutions and he can afford the GTX 280. so why are u still wanting him to buy a HD 4870 1GB lol...
Because spending money unnessesarily is just dumb...

a 4870 would be the best thing for that system as an upgrade and then save the rest of the money for a later build...

so getting better performance is dumb? hd 4870 is nice but when u can afford GTX 280 there is no point in getting it...

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2009-01-16 06:11:40

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FloppY_: +1,010|6551|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
FloppY_ wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
he is gonna use high resolutions and he can afford the GTX 280. so why are u still wanting him to buy a HD 4870 1GB lol...
Because spending money unnessesarily is just dumb...

a 4870 would be the best thing for that system as an upgrade and then save the rest of the money for a later build...
so getting better performance is dumb? hd 4870 is nice but when u can afford GTX 280 there is no point in getting it...

No it is not... but I'm just saying, the GTX280 is overpriced imho... you can get a 4850X2 for much less or even a 4870X2 at the same price.

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2009-01-16 06:15:51

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Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6462|Winland

FloppY_ wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
FloppY_ wrote:

Because spending money unnessesarily is just dumb...

a 4870 would be the best thing for that system as an upgrade and then save the rest of the money for a later build...
so getting better performance is dumb? hd 4870 is nice but when u can afford GTX 280 there is no point in getting it...
No it is not... but I'm just saying, the GTX280 is overpriced imho... you can get a 4850X2 for much less or even a 4870X2 at the same price.

280s have dropped loads lately.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-01-16 06:16:59

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GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6679|Finland

Freezer7Pro wrote:
FloppY_ wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

so getting better performance is dumb? hd 4870 is nice but when u can afford GTX 280 there is no point in getting it...
No it is not... but I'm just saying, the GTX280 is overpriced imho... you can get a 4850X2 for much less or even a 4870X2 at the same price.
280s have dropped loads lately.

HD 4850X2 is one of the loudest cards ever.
GTX 280 has dropped MASSIVELY in price... its almost same price as GTX 260 core 216...

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2009-01-16 06:18:10

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FloppY_: +1,010|6551|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
FloppY_ wrote:
No it is not... but I'm just saying, the GTX280 is overpriced imho... you can get a 4850X2 for much less or even a 4870X2 at the same price.
280s have dropped loads lately.
HD 4850X2 is one of the loudest cards ever.
GTX 280 has dropped MASSIVELY in price... its almost same price as GTX 260 core 216...

Maybe where you live they have... here they are still £300 whilst the 4870 is only £200, the tiny performance boost is not worth +50% the price tbh...

And don't forget about the money you can save from not having to buy the Nvidia motherboards

I would definately not spend more than £250 on a GFX card since you are better of saving the money for upgrading that card to newer tech down the road...

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2009-01-16 06:20:29

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GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6679|Finland

FloppY_ wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:

280s have dropped loads lately.
HD 4850X2 is one of the loudest cards ever.
GTX 280 has dropped MASSIVELY in price... its almost same price as GTX 260 core 216...
Maybe where you live they have... here they are still £300 whilst the 4870 is only £200, the tiny performance boost is not worth +50% the price tbh...

And don't forget about the money you can save from not having to buy the Nvidia motherboards

you DON'T need to buy NVIDIA mobo, the performance difference is bigger than tiny, the prices have dropped almost everywhere (Newegg, overclockersUK, finland, germany...)

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2009-01-16 06:25:47

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FloppY_: +1,010|6551|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
FloppY_ wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

HD 4850X2 is one of the loudest cards ever.
GTX 280 has dropped MASSIVELY in price... its almost same price as GTX 260 core 216...
Maybe where you live they have... here they are still £300 whilst the 4870 is only £200, the tiny performance boost is not worth +50% the price tbh...

And don't forget about the money you can save from not having to buy the Nvidia motherboards
you DON'T need to buy NVIDIA mobo, the performance difference is bigger than tiny, the prices have dropped almost everywhere (Newegg, overclockersUK, finland, germany...)

http://edbpriser.dk/Products/Listprices … ord=gtx280

That is 800 DKK (£80) more than I have payed for my incoming 4870 Toxic

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2009-01-16 06:30:30

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GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6679|Finland

The price difference is almost on par with the extra performance it gives...

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2009-01-16 06:39:37

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FloppY_: +1,010|6551|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
The price difference is almost on par with the extra performance it gives in some games...

Not all though...

Really comes down to what you play.. In my case, Crysis/COD4/etc. it is not worth the extra £100 for 5-9 more FPS

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/charts/ga … 2114%5D=on
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Especially now where the new Catalyst drivers boost performance on all 48xx GPUs

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2009-01-16 06:42:06

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GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6679|Finland

FloppY_ wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
The price difference is almost on par with the extra performance it gives in some games...
Not all though...

Really comes down to what you play.. In my case, Crysis/COD4/etc. it is not worth the extra £100 for 5-9 more FPS

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/charts/ga … 2114%5D=on

Especially now where the new Catalyst drivers boost performance on all 48xx GPUs

hte new driver boosts CF performance tbh...

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2009-01-16 06:48:13

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FloppY_: +1,010|6551|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
FloppY_ wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
The price difference is almost on par with the extra performance it gives in some games...
Not all though...

Really comes down to what you play.. In my case, Crysis/COD4/etc. it is not worth the extra £100 for 5-9 more FPS

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/charts/ga … 2114%5D=on

Especially now where the new Catalyst drivers boost performance on all 48xx GPUs
hte new driver boosts CF performance tbh...

Yes tbh.. but as far as I've seen/heard it boosts performance on single X2 cards aswell...

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2009-01-16 06:50:54

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GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6679|Finland

FloppY_ wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
FloppY_ wrote:

Not all though...

Really comes down to what you play.. In my case, Crysis/COD4/etc. it is not worth the extra £100 for 5-9 more FPS

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/charts/ga … 2114%5D=on

Especially now where the new Catalyst drivers boost performance on all 48xx GPUs
hte new driver boosts CF performance tbh...
Yes tbh.. but as far as I've seen/heard it boosts performance on single X2 cards aswell...

X2 has internal crossfire

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2009-01-16 06:54:58

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FloppY_: +1,010|6551|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
FloppY_ wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
hte new driver boosts CF performance tbh...
Yes tbh.. but as far as I've seen/heard it boosts performance on single X2 cards aswell...
X2 has internal crossfire

Yes, however it is still a single card

If I were to look at a GTX260 Core216 I would get a 4850X2 instead since it can blow a GTX280 away at the price of the GTX260

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2009-01-16 06:58:35

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GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6679|Finland

FloppY_ wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
FloppY_ wrote:
Yes tbh.. but as far as I've seen/heard it boosts performance on single X2 cards aswell...
X2 has internal crossfire
Yes, however it is still a single card

If I were to look at a GTX260 Core216 I would get a 4850X2 instead since it can blow a GTX280 away at the price of the GTX260

they need to bundle some serious noise reduction system with HD4850X2 tho... its LOUD. I actually made a thread of the goob bang for buck it has but the noise levels are horrible...

and drivers the X2 and GTX 295 use are CF/SLi drivers. Catalyst 8.12 hotfix is CF scaling fix and therefore applying to the X2s as well. Nvidia recently made a SLi scaling fix for Stalker.

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2009-01-16 07:02:12

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FloppY_: +1,010|6551|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
FloppY_ wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

X2 has internal crossfire
Yes, however it is still a single card

If I were to look at a GTX260 Core216 I would get a 4850X2 instead since it can blow a GTX280 away at the price of the GTX260
they need to bundle some serious noise reduction system with HD4850X2 tho... its LOUD. I actually made a thread of the goob bang for buck it has but the noise levels are horrible...

and drivers the X2 and GTX 295 use are CF/SLi drivers. Catalyst 8.12 hotfix is CF scaling fix and therefore applying to the X2s as well. Nvidia recently made a SLi scaling fix for Stalker.

The Sapphire 4850X2 comes with a dual slot Toxic cooler which runs very silent

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