I forgot how homo you are.Mutantsteak wrote:
I forgot how cute parker was
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
inb4gaywarmananalbutsecksjokesWar Man wrote:
I forgot how homo you are.Mutantsteak wrote:
I forgot how cute parker was
Hes still sore about my 8 year old joke
Probably alot sorer after im through with him
Probably alot sorer after im through with him
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M4/M4A1. Lovely guns, they are.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
true enough. but its some damn good shootin, so im proudPoseidon wrote:
you have linked to that video over 9000 times my friend
not that there's anything wrong with that...
I'd probably say M1 Garand, FAMAS and the Steyr AUG.
You were 15ft away! You better hit center mass lol! And its a magazine not a clip! Your still sexy thoughParker wrote:
true enough. but its some damn good shootin, so im proudPoseidon wrote:
you have linked to that video over 9000 times my friend
not that there's anything wrong with that...
I'd probably say M1 Garand, FAMAS and the Steyr AUG.
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If I had to pick ONE weapon as a general purpose do-it-all rifle, the M110 in 7.62x51.
(Or a similarly configured Armalite AR-10 + Krieger barrel + Geissele trigger + Nightforce scope + Magpul PRS stock + Daniel Defense free-float fore-end)
(Or a similarly configured Armalite AR-10 + Krieger barrel + Geissele trigger + Nightforce scope + Magpul PRS stock + Daniel Defense free-float fore-end)
You don't like the Leupold?rdx-fx wrote:
If I had to pick ONE weapon as a general purpose do-it-all rifle, the M110 in 7.62x51.
(Or a similarly configured Armalite AR-10 + Krieger barrel + Geissele trigger + Nightforce scope + Magpul PRS stock + Daniel Defense free-float fore-end)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c … P_Left.jpg
I just like how the Army is so quick to drop the M24, they just adopted it not that long ago. They go from the M21 to M24 to M110, learn from the Marines and keep multiple options in your inventory M40A3, SR25, DMR(M14) and M107. With that you have all your missions covered.
I haven't done much research on these new fangled semiauto sniper rifles. Are they as accurate as the M24 at extended ranges?
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I don't think any semi is going to be as accurate as a bolt rifle at long range. But they were dropping dudes at 100-600m when we were using them.Reciprocity wrote:
I haven't done much research on these new fangled semiautos sniper rifles. Are they as accurate as the M24 at extended ranges?
Leupold is a pretty good scope. I'd put it in the middle price/performance-wise. For a hunting rifle, it's fine. For a military rifle, it has issues.Reciprocity wrote:
You don't like the Leupold?rdx-fx wrote:
If I had to pick ONE weapon as a general purpose do-it-all rifle, the M110 in 7.62x51.
(Or a similarly configured Armalite AR-10 + Krieger barrel + Geissele trigger + Nightforce scope + Magpul PRS stock + Daniel Defense free-float fore-end)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c … P_Left.jpg
1) Stadia wires (crosshairs) can come loose too easily
2) Seals are not as rugged as they should be, and leak if subjected to any abuse.
3) Turret adjustments aren't always repeatable. First stop after buying a Leupold is the aftermarket shop, for replacement turret hardware.
4) Glass is not as good as it could be (optical clarity, color trueness, low-light transmissiveness) = eye fatigue after a few less minutes.
Some of the Leupolds cost as much as a Nightforce, Schmidt & Bender, IOR, or Zeiss -but they are NOT in the same league for military or competition shooting.
For an easy-to-read comparison of scopes;
http://www.6mmbr.com/optics.html
Edit: and if you're hunting/shooting when it's nearly/mostly dark out - go Schmidt und Bender. They were designed from the start as an optic for hunting german predators at twilight. (The animal variety, not the "have a seat over here" human variety... in case that was unclear).
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Sounds like a good rifle for the current situation. Hopefully they'll only mothball the M24s, they'll probably need them again.
Last edited by Reciprocity (2009-02-02 18:46:38)
lol, I was sorta teasing.rdx-fx wrote:
Leupold is a pretty good scope. I'd put it in the middle price/performance-wise. For a hunting rifle, it's fine. For a military rifle, it has issues.
1) Stadia wires (crosshairs) can come loose too easily
2) Seals are not as rugged as they should be, and leak if subjected to any abuse.
3) Turret adjustments aren't always repeatable. First stop after buying a Leupold is the aftermarket shop, for replacement turret hardware.
4) Glass is not as good as it could be (optical clarity, color trueness, low-light transmissiveness) = eye fatigue after a few less minutes.
Some of the Leupolds cost as much as a Nightforce, Schmidt & Bender, IOR, or Zeiss -but they are NOT in the same league for military or competition shooting.
For an easy-to-read comparison of scopes;
http://www.6mmbr.com/optics.html
Edit: and if you're hunting/shooting when it's nearly/mostly dark out - go Schmidt und Bender. They were designed from the start as an optic for hunting german predators at twilight. (The animal variety, not the "have a seat over here" human variety... in case that was unclear).
I've got a USO ST-10 on my target rifle. I love my MOA reticle and my EREK knob.
Edit: short executive summary of following text - Current semi-auto sniper rifles are capable of holding the same, if not better, accuracy as compared to previous bolt-action rifles. Your mileage may vary. Not available in Pink, Lavender , or chartruse. not for sale in NY, NJ, CA, or ILReciprocity wrote:
I haven't done much research on these new fangled semiauto sniper rifles. Are they as accurate as the M24 at extended ranges?
Depends on how well they're put together.
A factory Remington 700 bolt-action will generally hold a 1" to 2" group at 100 yards (or 1 to 2 Minute of Angle)
A properly assembled semi-auto SDM-R (Squad Designated Marksman Rifle) or M110 will hold 1/2" to 1/4" groups at 100 yards.
You need a $250 Colt Armorer's set to build one of these. Fits in a lunchbox, mostly.
A recent M24 or M40 bolt action sniper rifle (generally a tuned Remington 700, with custom stock/barrel/trigger/scope), tuned by a gunsmith, will hold 1/2" groups at 100yd. You need a lathe, drill press, and other tools to build one of these.
A M14 or M21 requires a lathe, soldering equipment, drill press, torches, sacrifices to Ancient Dieties, and constant blood rituals to keep tuned to 1" to 1/2" groups. Don't ask me about mounting scopes on them - I don't wanna go there.
The really nice feature of the M-16 family of rifles (AR-15, M-4, M-16, AR-10, M110, etc, etc..) is that the ONLY mechanical parts that have a real effect on the accuracy of the rifle are the Bolt, Barrel, Trigger, and to a minor degree, the Lower Receiver.
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On an M-16 derivative, you can just screw the parts together - there isn't the need for a lathe, drill press, or full-time gunsmith to work on them.
They are an armorer's weapon, rather than a gunsmiths weapon.
BUT - just like any firearm debate, you will find proponents of each of the above weapon system that SWEAR their particular system is The One True Path, and all else is heresy. And every camp has plenty of people that have "been there, done that" in the worst possible way.
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oh, very nice!Reciprocity wrote:
lol, I was sorta teasing.
I've got a USO ST-10 on my target rifle. I love my MOA reticle and my EREK knob.
I knew I was forgetting one of the upper-end scope makers. US Optics, I'd put in the same boat as Nightforce.
FG 42
Gewer 43
BAR
and of course, MP44
Gewer 43
BAR
and of course, MP44
Somehow that gun reminds me of this one, which I guess would be my alltime favorite: the Astartes Godwyn pattern MkVb.Roc18 wrote:
I actually hate guns
The m21 got adopted in the 1960's and the m24 got adopted in the 1980's, so it shouldn't come as a surprise the m110 is being adopted right now.SgtHeihn wrote:
I just like how the Army is so quick to drop the M24, they just adopted it not that long ago. They go from the M21 to M24 to M110, learn from the Marines and keep multiple options in your inventory M40A3, SR25, DMR(M14) and M107. With that you have all your missions covered.
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
The original M40 series has its roots in Vietnam. The SR-25/M110 is based off the AR-10(1950's). The M24 was only adopted in 1988 which is ultra modern technology in military terms. The Army is very-very knee jerk when dealing with things, which can be good and bad.War Man wrote:
The m21 got adopted in the 1960's and the m24 got adopted in the 1980's, so it shouldn't come as a surprise the m110 is being adopted right now.SgtHeihn wrote:
I just like how the Army is so quick to drop the M24, they just adopted it not that long ago. They go from the M21 to M24 to M110, learn from the Marines and keep multiple options in your inventory M40A3, SR25, DMR(M14) and M107. With that you have all your missions covered.
That's one of the differences with the branches.SgtHeihn wrote:
The original M40 series has its roots in Vietnam. The SR-25/M110 is based off the AR-10(1950's). The M24 was only adopted in 1988 which is ultra modern technology in military terms. The Army is very-very knee jerk when dealing with things, which can be good and bad.War Man wrote:
The m21 got adopted in the 1960's and the m24 got adopted in the 1980's, so it shouldn't come as a surprise the m110 is being adopted right now.SgtHeihn wrote:
I just like how the Army is so quick to drop the M24, they just adopted it not that long ago. They go from the M21 to M24 to M110, learn from the Marines and keep multiple options in your inventory M40A3, SR25, DMR(M14) and M107. With that you have all your missions covered.
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
Rifle:
My Bushmaster XM-15 Varminter (Fluted/Floated 24in Upper/ DCM Competition Lower w/ trigger)
Pistol:
My Dads Kimber 1911. Nuff said.
My Bushmaster XM-15 Varminter (Fluted/Floated 24in Upper/ DCM Competition Lower w/ trigger)
Pistol:
My Dads Kimber 1911. Nuff said.
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But i did actually fire an ak47, svd and the mosin nagant.
And i have to say, pulling the blot back and forth feels sooooo good.
And i have to say, pulling the blot back and forth feels sooooo good.
