AutralianChainsaw
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Just came across this article:

Netanyahu promises: My gov't will keep Jerusalem united

Here's one of the quotes:

"We did not return to Jerusalem after praying for it to be rebuilt for 2000 years in order to give it up," Netanyahu told a throng of reporters from around the world at the City of David. "We did not unite the city in order to divide it, and my government will maintain a united Jerusalem. A sane country does not give its capital to its enemies."

So if i read correctly , that guy consider the relatively peaceful arabs and muslims of Jerusalem its enemies?  We are not talking about Hamas "terrorists" here.. we are talking about regular palestinians trying to make a living peacefully.

This guy is leading in the polls..does that mean that most israelis agree with the fact that all palestinians are the enemies?

Anybody think that with that leading the state of israel, peace will be possible?

Discuss.
Cybargs
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Muslims have Mecca, let the Jews have JEWRUSELEM k.
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Stingray24
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AutralianChainsaw wrote:

So if i read correctly , that guy consider the relatively peaceful arabs and muslims of Jerusalem its enemies?
"relatively peaceful"

Peace is not possible with Hamas in power.
AutralianChainsaw
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Stingray24 wrote:

AutralianChainsaw wrote:

So if i read correctly , that guy consider the relatively peaceful arabs and muslims of Jerusalem its enemies?
"relatively peaceful"

Peace is not possible with Hamas in power.
Last time i checked, Jerusalem is not in Gaza and is not under the influence of Hamas.

So you agree with Netanyahu that all palestinians are the enemies of israel?  Even those in the west bank?
Mekstizzle
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Stingray24 wrote:

AutralianChainsaw wrote:

So if i read correctly , that guy consider the relatively peaceful arabs and muslims of Jerusalem its enemies?
"relatively peaceful"

Peace is not possible with Hamas in power.
He's talking about Jerusalem not Gaza

He was probably referring to places like Syria but yeah, pretty stupid move to go ahead and call all the Muslims in Jerusalem "enemies" - Sounds more like a political blunder mixed in with ignorance
Bertster7
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War crime tbh...
m3thod
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what do you expect from a guy that went along to celebrate the anniversary of a terrorist bombing.
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KEN-JENNINGS
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I think it is utterly retarded of Netanyahu to come out and say such a thing at this point.  He is obviously trying to secure conservative votes for the upcoming election, but to use such a contentious issue as Jerusalem as a way to garner votes is not very smart.  I am hopeful that this ignorant stance on an important bargaining chip in the MidEast peace process does not become the deciding factor in Israeli elections, because it will be a step back for realizing peace in the region.
Lai
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Mekstizzle wrote:

Sounds more like a political blunder mixed in with ignorance
No it was not, Benny is just a twat. Much of the progress made earlier was made undone under his office. Benny is a hardline Zionist that would happily cleanse Judea and Galilea of all 'unchosen'.

The reason people vote for him is because they're not happy with the pressent situation, so they shift to the oposition without properly taking its viewpoints into consideration.
Dilbert_X
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Netanyahu is basically a zionist terrorist, with as much legitimacy as the Hamas terrorists.
He's also promised to expand the West Bank 'settlements'.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2009-02-02 16:00:55)

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Macbeth
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Nope there will never be peace in that region unless Israel is totally destroyed.

Given the recent war thing they've had the people most likely want a hardliner who'd do all in his power to protect Israel's position.

Now before anyone says I want Israel destroyed, I'm totally indifferent to the conflict in the region. I'm just stating a fact.
AussieReaper
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Cybargs wrote:

Muslims have Mecca, let the Jews have JEWRUSELEM k.
But the Muslims also consider Jesus a prophet.

kthxbai
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Dilbert_X
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There could easily be peace, it would take a lot of time and effort, and Israel would have to retreat to at least the 1967 borders.
They can make peace now or face annihilation when the oil has run out and they are back to fighting with sticks and stones.
But Israel doesn't want peace, they want what they want and everyone else can go screw themselves.
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KEN-JENNINGS
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Dilbert_X wrote:

There could easily be peace, it would take a lot of time and effort, and Israel would have to retreat to at least the 1967 borders.
They can make peace now or face annihilation when the oil has run out and they are back to fighting with sticks and stones.
But Israel doesn't want peace, they want what they want and everyone else can go screw themselves.
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But saying "Israel doesn't want peace" is like saying "America doesn't care about Sudan" - it's false.  Polls of Israeli citizens show that they do want peace.  Like most any other country, Israelis are beholden to the policies set by those in power.  Hopefully Netanyahu's remarks serve to disassociate him further from the Israeli public, resulting in a win for his competitor in the election and an integral step forward for a solution in the region.
bogo24dk
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

There could easily be peace, it would take a lot of time and effort, and Israel would have to retreat to at least the 1967 borders.
They can make peace now or face annihilation when the oil has run out and they are back to fighting with sticks and stones.
But Israel doesn't want peace, they want what they want and everyone else can go screw themselves.
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj25 … nn_map.png
But saying "Israel doesn't want peace" is like saying "America doesn't care about Sudan" - it's false.  Polls of Israeli citizens show that they do want peace.  Like most any other country, Israelis are beholden to the policies set by those in power.  Hopefully Netanyahu's remarks serve to disassociate him further from the Israeli public, resulting in a win for his competitor in the election and an integral step forward for a solution in the region.
Peace means giving up land and move back to the 1967 border. How many Israelis are ready to give up stolen land back ?
Dilbert_X
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Israelis are beholden to the policies set by those in power.
They certainly are, however if people choose to migrate to a country they know was created by stealing someone elses and they know has been run by aggressive Zionists and will likely continue to be I don't really have a lot of sympathy.
They are free to elect a government comitted to peace but they don't.

Israelis want peace, but on their terms only, if they aren't prepared to make any kind of compromise they can't really claim to want peace that much.
Its like the New Yorkers migrating to West Bank 'settlements' and saying 'I just want to live in peace'.
Sorry, they don't convince me of their pure intentions.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2009-02-02 16:18:53)

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Turquoise
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Um... as a side note, it really can't be said that Arabs and Palestinians are any more peaceful than Israelis.  The Middle East is mostly just a festering sore of conflict with a long history of war.

Of course, until very recently, I guess most areas could be called that.
Dilbert_X
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The Middle East is mostly just a festering sore of conflict with a long history of war.
Not really.
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KEN-JENNINGS
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bogo24dk wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

There could easily be peace, it would take a lot of time and effort, and Israel would have to retreat to at least the 1967 borders.
They can make peace now or face annihilation when the oil has run out and they are back to fighting with sticks and stones.
But Israel doesn't want peace, they want what they want and everyone else can go screw themselves.
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj25 … nn_map.png
But saying "Israel doesn't want peace" is like saying "America doesn't care about Sudan" - it's false.  Polls of Israeli citizens show that they do want peace.  Like most any other country, Israelis are beholden to the policies set by those in power.  Hopefully Netanyahu's remarks serve to disassociate him further from the Israeli public, resulting in a win for his competitor in the election and an integral step forward for a solution in the region.
Peace means giving up land and move back to the 1967 border. How many Israelis are ready to give up stolen land back ?
A lot.
Turquoise
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Dilbert_X wrote:

The Middle East is mostly just a festering sore of conflict with a long history of war.
Not really.
Are you kidding?  The Middle East has had more war than most other regions of the world -- especially in recent decades.
Dilbert_X
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A lot.
Then they need to start voting for someone other than a fuckhead like Netanyahu.
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bogo24dk
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

bogo24dk wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:


But saying "Israel doesn't want peace" is like saying "America doesn't care about Sudan" - it's false.  Polls of Israeli citizens show that they do want peace.  Like most any other country, Israelis are beholden to the policies set by those in power.  Hopefully Netanyahu's remarks serve to disassociate him further from the Israeli public, resulting in a win for his competitor in the election and an integral step forward for a solution in the region.
Peace means giving up land and move back to the 1967 border. How many Israelis are ready to give up stolen land back ?
A lot.
Show me some nr on the 1967 border peace . Please
Dilbert_X
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Turquoise wrote:

Are you kidding?  The Middle East has had more war than most other regions of the world -- especially in recent decades.
For example? Excluding the product of Western Imperialism pretty sure they are no more warlike than anywhere else, probably less so in fact.
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Turquoise
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Are you kidding?  The Middle East has had more war than most other regions of the world -- especially in recent decades.
For example? Excluding the product of Western Imperialism pretty sure they are no more warlike than anywhere else, probably less so in fact.
Uh... no...  Look at how much war they engaged in during ancient times.
bogo24dk
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Dilbert_X wrote:

A lot.
Then they need to start voting for someone other than a fuckhead like Netanyahu.
You don't vote for this loser with hope for peace. You vote for him in order to see a  higher bodycount of Palestinians.

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