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2009-02-09 02:08:56

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6909

I'm sorry but how is it it "insane" to have floods in the North and fires in the South? Am I missing something? Aus is a huuuge continent. It's like saying America's weather conditions are insane because they have tornado's in the Mid-West at the same time as blizzards in New England and heat-waves in Nevada.

Big sympathies though, I have a few friends backpacking out in Australia... pretty sure they're not in Victoria though. Extremely tragic if some of the damage and loss of life caused was due to the reckless or even malicious actions of others. Should be hung, no excuses about it... massive financial damages and a loss of human life, not so fun.

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2009-02-09 02:26:11

mcminty: Moderating your content for the Australian Govt.; +879|7160|Sydney, Australia

Uzique wrote:
I'm sorry but how is it it "insane" to have floods in the North and fires in the South? Am I missing something? Aus is a huuuge continent. It's like saying America's weather conditions are insane because they have tornado's in the Mid-West at the same time as blizzards in New England and heat-waves in Nevada.

Big sympathies though, I have a few friends backpacking out in Australia... pretty sure they're not in Victoria though. Extremely tragic if some of the damage and loss of life caused was due to the reckless or even malicious actions of others. Should be hung, no excuses about it... massive financial damages and a loss of human life, not so fun.

Well, considering Queesland has been in a chronic drought over the last few years...

It is believed that at least some of the deaths were a result of arson. The news has also reported that the Attorney-General will be seeking to charge the arsonists with murder. Should slap terrorism in with it too.

2009-02-09 02:28:41

Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|6141|College Park, MD

mcminty wrote:
Uzique wrote:
I'm sorry but how is it it "insane" to have floods in the North and fires in the South? Am I missing something? Aus is a huuuge continent. It's like saying America's weather conditions are insane because they have tornado's in the Mid-West at the same time as blizzards in New England and heat-waves in Nevada.

Big sympathies though, I have a few friends backpacking out in Australia... pretty sure they're not in Victoria though. Extremely tragic if some of the damage and loss of life caused was due to the reckless or even malicious actions of others. Should be hung, no excuses about it... massive financial damages and a loss of human life, not so fun.
Well, considering Queesland has been in a chronic drought over the last few years...

It is believed that at least some of the deaths were a result of arson. The news has also reported that the Attorney-General will be seeking to charge the arsonists with murder. Should slap terrorism in with it too.

Make it treason, or whichever offense gets them the heaviest punishment.

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2009-02-09 02:33:29

Little BaBy JESUS: m8; +394|6588|'straya

Uzique wrote:
I'm sorry but how is it it "insane" to have floods in the North and fires in the South? Am I missing something? Aus is a huuuge continent. It's like saying America's weather conditions are insane because they have tornado's in the Mid-West at the same time as blizzards in New England and heat-waves in Nevada.

Big sympathies though, I have a few friends backpacking out in Australia... pretty sure they're not in Victoria though. Extremely tragic if some of the damage and loss of life caused was due to the reckless or even malicious actions of others. Should be hung, no excuses about it... massive financial damages and a loss of human life, not so fun.

i didnt mean insane in terms of weather... we are a big country, shit happens.... but insane in terms of the lives being lost in 2 large natural disasters (if u can call them that since it seems alot of the fires were caused by arson)

2009-02-09 02:34:33

Fenris_GreyClaw: Real Хорошо; +826|6958|Adelaide, South Australia

Who else in Aus is donating stuff? (I dunno WHAT I'll donate yet, I have to look around)

Uzique wrote:
I'm sorry but how is it it "insane" to have floods in the North and fires in the South? Am I missing something? Aus is a huuuge continent. It's like saying America's weather conditions are insane because they have tornado's in the Mid-West at the same time as blizzards in New England and heat-waves in Nevada.

Not only are we the smallest of the 7 continents, we probably only count as 1 or 2 States in America.

You do realise that?

Hurricane2k9 wrote:
mcminty wrote:
Well, considering Queesland has been in a chronic drought over the last few years...

It is believed that at least some of the deaths were a result of arson. The news has also reported that the Attorney-General will be seeking to charge the arsonists with murder. Should slap terrorism in with it too.
Make it treason, or whichever offense gets them the heaviest punishment.

With the amount of damage and death caused by this, you won't need to hit 'em with anything higher. The jail terms'll stack; I wouldn't be surprised at several-hundred years being handed down.

2009-02-09 02:37:53

Jestar: Shifty's Home Number: 02 9662 8432; +373|7180

It will most like be labelled as manslaughter, as I think thats the rule, as they did not intend to kill or something like that.

Imagine an entire town, that you've seen before, been there, gotten a pie and coke there before.
Now imagine that entire fucking town being wiped out in the space of 1/2 hour. Kinglake was wiped out incredibly fast.

https://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200902/r337312_1530305.jpg

All Gone.

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2009-02-09 02:46:20

Little BaBy JESUS: m8; +394|6588|'straya

Fenris_GreyClaw wrote:
Who else in Aus is donating stuff? (I dunno WHAT I'll donate yet, I have to look around)

Uzique wrote:
I'm sorry but how is it it "insane" to have floods in the North and fires in the South? Am I missing something? Aus is a huuuge continent. It's like saying America's weather conditions are insane because they have tornado's in the Mid-West at the same time as blizzards in New England and heat-waves in Nevada.
Not only are we the smallest of the 7 continents, we probably only count as 1 or 2 States in America.

You do realise that?

Hurricane2k9 wrote:
mcminty wrote:
Well, considering Queesland has been in a chronic drought over the last few years...

It is believed that at least some of the deaths were a result of arson. The news has also reported that the Attorney-General will be seeking to charge the arsonists with murder. Should slap terrorism in with it too.
Make it treason, or whichever offense gets them the heaviest punishment.
With the amount of damage and death caused by this, you won't need to hit 'em with anything higher. The jail terms'll stack; I wouldn't be surprised at several-hundred years being handed down.

arson, other fire laws, willful damage, destruction of property and over 130 counts of manslaughter must add up though. hopefully

2009-02-09 02:46:59

Fenris_GreyClaw: Real Хорошо; +826|6958|Adelaide, South Australia

Jestar wrote:
It will most like be labelled as manslaughter, as I think thats the rule, as they did not intend to kill or something like that.

At the very LEAST it's 'Intent to Cause Harm' by doing it deliberately. Whoever gets pinned with this will be fucking CRUCIFIED, be it by Jury or Judge-alone.

2009-02-09 02:50:26

~FuzZz~: .yag era uoy fi siht deaR; +422|6761|Orrstrayleea

Smoke is worsening, and our important shit is packed just incase.

GAY.

2009-02-09 02:51:21

mcminty: Moderating your content for the Australian Govt.; +879|7160|Sydney, Australia

Fenris_GreyClaw wrote:
With the amount of damage and death caused by this, you won't need to hit 'em with anything higher. The jail terms'll stack; I wouldn't be surprised at several-hundred years being handed down.

This ^

That, and send them to a (Victorian) prison like HM Prison Barwon, a max security one. They will get their punishment in no time..

2009-02-09 03:06:11

d4rkph03n1x: Member; +131|7188

It's almost worse than ash wednesday :S. It's ash wednesday v2.

An interesting question has to be posed. If you know that you willingly started that fire, regardless of your intentions or failure of foresight, would you turn yourself in to face the courts for the manslaughter charges and damage bills, or would you run and hide and carry that guilt with you for the rest of your life?

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2009-02-09 03:15:29

Little BaBy JESUS: m8; +394|6588|'straya

d4rkph03n1x wrote:
It's almost worse than ash wednesday :S. It's ash wednesday v2.

An interesting question has to be posed. If you know that you willingly started that fire, regardless of your intentions or failure of foresight, would you turn yourself in to face the courts for the manslaughter charges and damage bills, or would you run and hide and carry that guilt with you for the rest of your life?

The Australian wrote:
The grim tally amounts to at least three times the number of lives lost in both the Ash Wednesday fires of 1983 and the Black Friday fires of 1939.

PM wrote:
“What do you say about anyone like that - there are no words to describe it other than mass murder,” Mr Rudd said.

2009-02-09 04:16:54

1927: The oldest chav in the world; +2,423|7112|Cardiff, Capital of Wales

Hope none of our Australian members are caught up in this and thoughts remain with you, hope it comes to and end soon and arson hasn't been proved correct.

2009-02-09 04:24:26

mcminty: Moderating your content for the Australian Govt.; +879|7160|Sydney, Australia

1927 wrote:
Hope none of our Australian members are caught up in this and thoughts remain with you, hope it comes to and end soon and arson hasn't been proved correct.

Thanks '27. I'm in Sydney myself, but I'm sure there are some Aussie members living in Victoria.

Looks like it is indeed arson - http://www.theage.com.au/national/polic … -82d6.html - but those fuckers don't have long left before they are caught.

2009-02-09 04:40:34

Nappy: Apprentice; +151|6668|NSW, Australia

theres a fire near me, it started on friday and i think it might be still going, the smoke/ash was so bad.
the one near me (peats ridge) was lit by an arsonist and he was going to court today but im not sure of the outcome

2009-02-09 06:15:41

CammRobb: Banned; +1,510|6569|Carnoustie MASSIF

Rip to the fallen, and good luck to our Aussie members, and everyone else in Australia.

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