Upping the resolution makes the GPU rely less on the CPU. This is why CPU benchmarks often run games at 800x600, or 1024x768... as higher resolutions don't really need as much CPU.Freezer7Pro wrote:
Upping res doesn't take load off the CPU, it merely changes the CPU load:GPU load ratio; CPU load increases too when upping the res.CC-Marley wrote:
I have a 4850 in a old Dell XPS3 with a P4 3.6 HT. Would making the res 1280x1024 or even 1600x1200 from 1024x768 help it play PR better? Probably the processor holding the card back anyway.Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:
I would agree that they BIOS flash may have hosed the card. However, it doesn't help that you are playing with such a low resolution. A card of that power isn't really going to start flexing it muscle until at least 1600x1200...with a few noted game exceptions.
I'm pretty sure higher resolutions will stress the CPU the same amount as a lower resolution or (most probably) more.
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Maybe so, but regardless, the GPU works more efficiently at higher resolutions.
CPU benchmarks (3Dmark for example) run so low, because it is all rendered on the CPU, and rendering a bigger res would take too long.CrazeD wrote:
Upping the resolution makes the GPU rely less on the CPU. This is why CPU benchmarks often run games at 800x600, or 1024x768... as higher resolutions don't really need as much CPU.Freezer7Pro wrote:
Upping res doesn't take load off the CPU, it merely changes the CPU load:GPU load ratio; CPU load increases too when upping the res.CC-Marley wrote:
I have a 4850 in a old Dell XPS3 with a P4 3.6 HT. Would making the res 1280x1024 or even 1600x1200 from 1024x768 help it play PR better? Probably the processor holding the card back anyway.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
I said games.Freezer7Pro wrote:
CPU benchmarks (3Dmark for example) run so low, because it is all rendered on the CPU, and rendering a bigger res would take too long.CrazeD wrote:
Upping the resolution makes the GPU rely less on the CPU. This is why CPU benchmarks often run games at 800x600, or 1024x768... as higher resolutions don't really need as much CPU.Freezer7Pro wrote:
Upping res doesn't take load off the CPU, it merely changes the CPU load:GPU load ratio; CPU load increases too when upping the res.
Most CPU review articles run games on really low resolution, as running them on high resolution gives almost identical performance across most CPU's.
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3DMark is not "all rendered on the CPU".Freezer7Pro wrote:
CPU benchmarks (3Dmark for example) run so low, because it is all rendered on the CPU, and rendering a bigger res would take too long.CrazeD wrote:
Upping the resolution makes the GPU rely less on the CPU. This is why CPU benchmarks often run games at 800x600, or 1024x768... as higher resolutions don't really need as much CPU.Freezer7Pro wrote:
Upping res doesn't take load off the CPU, it merely changes the CPU load:GPU load ratio; CPU load increases too when upping the res.
tbh he said "CPU benchmarks (3Dmark for example)"Scorpion0x17 wrote:
3DMark is not "all rendered on the CPU".Freezer7Pro wrote:
CPU benchmarks (3Dmark for example) run so low, because it is all rendered on the CPU, and rendering a bigger res would take too long.CrazeD wrote:
Upping the resolution makes the GPU rely less on the CPU. This is why CPU benchmarks often run games at 800x600, or 1024x768... as higher resolutions don't really need as much CPU.
that excludes GPU benchmarks
edit: but its heavily CPU limited when ran on the default low resolution
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Ok. 3DMark is not a "CPU benchmark".GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
tbh he said "CPU benchmarks (3Dmark for example)"Scorpion0x17 wrote:
3DMark is not "all rendered on the CPU".Freezer7Pro wrote:
CPU benchmarks (3Dmark for example) run so low, because it is all rendered on the CPU, and rendering a bigger res would take too long.
that excludes GPU benchmarks
edit: but its heavily CPU limited when ran on the default low resolution
it is if u run only cpu benchies
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yeah, or if you put a non-DX video card in, or you're a numpty.GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
it is if u run only cpu benchies
Tbh, it's not a real good GPU benchmark either. You get more of a performance increase with a better CPU than you do a GPU.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
Ok. 3DMark is not a "CPU benchmark".GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
tbh he said "CPU benchmarks (3Dmark for example)"Scorpion0x17 wrote:
3DMark is not "all rendered on the CPU".
that excludes GPU benchmarks
edit: but its heavily CPU limited when ran on the default low resolution
For example, a Ci7 with a 8800GTX is probably > GTX280 with a C2D.
I personally think it's a very good benchmark, and the above demonstrates why - there is so much more to how well a systems performs than merely how many op's per second either the CPU or GPU can produce.CrazeD wrote:
Tbh, it's not a real good GPU benchmark either. You get more of a performance increase with a better CPU than you do a GPU.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
Ok. 3DMark is not a "CPU benchmark".GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
tbh he said "CPU benchmarks (3Dmark for example)"
that excludes GPU benchmarks
edit: but its heavily CPU limited when ran on the default low resolution
For example, a Ci7 with a 8800GTX is probably > GTX280 with a C2D.
AFAICT, without seeing the code, the 3DMark benchmarks test every component in a system.
What it's not good for is working out which components are the weak-links in the chain - but then that's what you have component-specific benchmarking tools for.
Yeah but it's labeled as a graphics benchmark, when the majority of the score is your CPU. It's not a good GPU benchmark at all.
IMO, games are the only good graphics benchmarks...as CPU has much less effect.
IMO, games are the only good graphics benchmarks...as CPU has much less effect.
Ok, i ran ati tool for a bit and it found nothing. Also did furmark for 10 minutes, also nothing. any other good gpu testers??
also, if the bios flash is a problem, how do i flash the card back to its stock bios???
i believe this is the stock bios
http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/2061 … 523_1.html
also, if the bios flash is a problem, how do i flash the card back to its stock bios???
i believe this is the stock bios
http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/2061 … 523_1.html
http://www.driverheaven.net/ati-graphic … r-way.htmlrammunition wrote:
Ok, i ran ati tool for a bit and it found nothing. Also did furmark for 10 minutes, also nothing. any other good gpu testers??
also, if the bios flash is a problem, how do i flash the card back to its stock bios???
i believe this is the stock bios
http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/2061 … 523_1.html
woah!! 2005? the bloke is still on about AGP, guide still ok???CrazeD wrote:
http://www.driverheaven.net/ati-graphic … r-way.htmlrammunition wrote:
Ok, i ran ati tool for a bit and it found nothing. Also did furmark for 10 minutes, also nothing. any other good gpu testers??
also, if the bios flash is a problem, how do i flash the card back to its stock bios???
i believe this is the stock bios
http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/2061 … 523_1.html
There are probably newer utilities that don't require you boot off them, but yes that will (should) work fine.
However fucking with the VBIOS will void your warranty and might brick the card, so I'd advise against it tbh.
EDIT: And by the way, what were your 3DMark06 scores?
However fucking with the VBIOS will void your warranty and might brick the card, so I'd advise against it tbh.
EDIT: And by the way, what were your 3DMark06 scores?
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if his card is gainward and it has asus BIOS already, I would say the warranty has said baibai looong time ago
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Touche.GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
if his card is gainward and it has asus BIOS already, I would say the warranty has said baibai looong time ago
CrazeD: I meant the 3DMark CPU benchmarks exclusively.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
here are my 3d mark 06 scores
do my card specs seem ok?? its not another card flashed to a 4850, is it???
do does specs seem ok???
also it has the vendor i.d, device i.d etc. how do i check them??
do my card specs seem ok?? its not another card flashed to a 4850, is it???
do does specs seem ok???
also it has the vendor i.d, device i.d etc. how do i check them??
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10k is pretty low. my friend with a stock Q6600 and 8800GT gets around that score.rammunition wrote:
here are my 3d mark 06 scores
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm10 … mark-1.jpg
do my card specs seem ok?? its not another card flashed to a 4850, is it???
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm10 … n1/gpu.jpg
do does specs seem ok???
also it has the vendor i.d, device i.d etc. how do i check them??