Have you got a (reasonably priced) example? i don't know enough about sound gear.
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What should I get for my B'day?
| BenQ E2400HD 24" Full HD 16:9 Widescreen LCD Monitor | 35% | 35% - 14 | ||||
| Gainward 1GB HD4870 | 33% | 33% - 13 | ||||
| Logitech Z5500D 5.1 Speakers | 30% | 30% - 12 | ||||
| Total: 39 | ||||||
For 400AUD, you could probably get a decent-ish pair of active studio monitors. What stores are there in ausland?
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
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Be careful, you might get flamed for saying that here. Remember some don't hear the difference hahaFreezer7Pro wrote:
Whatever you do, don't get those speakers. They're shit. Get a real amp and a real pair of speakers instead.
Last edited by .Sup (2009-04-05 10:22:57)
Because that set of speakers is very good at what they're designed for..Sup wrote:
Door no.1Be careful, you might get flamed for saying that here. Remember some don't hear the difference hahaFreezer7Pro wrote:
Whatever you do, don't get those speakers. They're shit. Get a real amp and a real pair of speakers instead.
For home cinema/gaming type usage they are pretty damn good. They're too bass heavy and have nothing in the mid range though...
For action movies, gaming etc. that's not an issue and the bass is about as good as you'll get for that money - which when thumping out big explosions in DTS is always good.
Although all that is assuming you have them connected digitally - if not they do sound very shit indeed.
For what they are they are a good set of speakers. Find a better 5.1 speaker set for that money...
A home cinema amp, a sub and five speakers ends up costing way, way more than them.
If his budget is 200€ they are good if the budget is 400€ they are not that good anymore.Bertster7 wrote:
Because that set of speakers is very good at what they're designed for..Sup wrote:
Door no.1Be careful, you might get flamed for saying that here. Remember some don't hear the difference hahaFreezer7Pro wrote:
Whatever you do, don't get those speakers. They're shit. Get a real amp and a real pair of speakers instead.
For home cinema/gaming type usage they are pretty damn good. They're too bass heavy and have nothing in the mid range though...
For action movies, gaming etc. that's not an issue and the bass is about as good as you'll get for that money - which when thumping out big explosions in DTS is always good.
Although all that is assuming you have them connected digitally - if not they do sound very shit indeed.
For what they are they are a good set of speakers. Find a better 5.1 speaker set for that money...
A home cinema amp, a sub and five speakers ends up costing way, way more than them.
Get a proper hifi amp and speakers.
great 2 channel > shitty 5.1
for the record i have owned.
5 sets of different creative 5.1's
1 set of logitech z5500's
1 harmon kardon HK680 amplifier and 1 set of TDL RTL2's (£80 on ebay + £200 for amp second hand)
and in an hours time hopefully some absofuckinglutely awesome speakers + unknown 2 channel amp....
great 2 channel > shitty 5.1
for the record i have owned.
5 sets of different creative 5.1's
1 set of logitech z5500's
1 harmon kardon HK680 amplifier and 1 set of TDL RTL2's (£80 on ebay + £200 for amp second hand)
and in an hours time hopefully some absofuckinglutely awesome speakers + unknown 2 channel amp....
Last edited by twoblacklines (2009-04-05 11:01:21)
Bert you can achieve better sound with a proper DAC>analog>Logitech5.1 than letting Logitechs do the converting digital to analog.
OP: I found a 5.1 system discussion (Logi z5500 gets mentioned as well)
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f46/5-1-c … rs-417730/
OP: I found a 5.1 system discussion (Logi z5500 gets mentioned as well)
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f46/5-1-c … rs-417730/
Last edited by .Sup (2009-04-05 11:10:04)
The 10% distortion on the Z-5500s should be enough to keep anyone away. One tenth of the audio basically disappears. 2% is already really bad. Most serious systems are rated at <0.2%.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
What you guys sometimes forget is the fact not everyone is super HIFI audiphile. I have listened to my friends Z-5500 and there is nothing wrong with them for gaming, movies and normal music (not some supah hifi audiophile stuff)
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No, you get flamed for being an arrogant dick..Sup wrote:
Be careful, you might get flamed for saying that here. Remember some don't hear the difference haha
this description about yourself is spot onDefiance wrote:
No, you get flamed for being an arrogant dick..Sup wrote:
Be careful, you might get flamed for saying that here. Remember some don't hear the difference haha
Last edited by .Sup (2009-04-05 13:06:42)
Anyone will hear a very clear difference between 10% and 0.1% distortion.GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
What you guys sometimes forget is the fact not everyone is super HIFI audiphile. I have listened to my friends Z-5500 and there is nothing wrong with them for gaming, movies and normal music (not some supah hifi audiophile stuff)
And no matter what, Logitech needs to get dick slapped for rating their power at that distortion, as the accepted standard is rating power at <0.1%, or in some cases 1%.
Last edited by Freezer7Pro (2009-04-05 13:16:35)
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Was just pointing the fact not everyone needs a set ef Genelecs that cost €€€ for their PC.
In fact I my ooold Logitech 4.1 set is doing fine for anything I do when coupled with my sound card which is not exactly the top of the line.
Thats why you, being audionutty, should think a bit before making very wide statements for everyone else.
In fact I my ooold Logitech 4.1 set is doing fine for anything I do when coupled with my sound card which is not exactly the top of the line.
Thats why you, being audionutty, should think a bit before making very wide statements for everyone else.
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Not everyone needs the best of the best, but they deserve better than Logitech.GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Was just pointing the fact not everyone needs a set ef Genelecs that cost €€€ for their PC.
In fact I my ooold Logitech 4.1 set is doing fine for anything I do when coupled with my sound card which is not exactly the top of the line.
Thats why you, being audionutty, should think a bit before making very wide statements for everyone else.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Exactly my point!GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Was just pointing the fact not everyone needs a set ef Genelecs that cost €€€ for their PC.
In fact I my ooold Logitech 4.1 set is doing fine for anything I do when coupled with my sound card which is not exactly the top of the line.
Thats why you, being audionutty, should think a bit before making very wide statements for everyone else.
For the money and for what they are, the Z5500s are good. Yes they are flawed and have shit mid range, but they do have really rather good bass - which matters a lot when watching action movies or gaming.
You probably can get a much crisper 2.1 system for the money - but nothing directly comparable.
I have yet to see someone post a better directly comparable system - and I doubt I will. Just more audiosnobs just bashing people into massively overspending, like in this thread .Sup so helpfully found:
In that thread most people say they are perfectly good and the best for what they are - but there are also a bunch of audiosnobs - who in the end get the guy to increase his budget vastly ($400 to $1000)..Sup wrote:
Bert you can achieve better sound with a proper DAC>analog>Logitech5.1 than letting Logitechs do the converting digital to analog.
OP: I found a 5.1 system discussion (Logi z5500 gets mentioned as well)
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f46/5-1-c … rs-417730/
If you want high quality music then they are not for you, a 2.1 system would be better - but if you want them for movies and gaming they're very good for the price.
Hmmm. ok. I do alot of gaming, watch alot of movies, and listen to alot of music haha... if anyone can link me to a good set in a similar price range that'd be awesomeBertster7 wrote:
Exactly my point!GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Was just pointing the fact not everyone needs a set ef Genelecs that cost €€€ for their PC.
In fact I my ooold Logitech 4.1 set is doing fine for anything I do when coupled with my sound card which is not exactly the top of the line.
Thats why you, being audionutty, should think a bit before making very wide statements for everyone else.
For the money and for what they are, the Z5500s are good. Yes they are flawed and have shit mid range, but they do have really rather good bass - which matters a lot when watching action movies or gaming.
You probably can get a much crisper 2.1 system for the money - but nothing directly comparable.
I have yet to see someone post a better directly comparable system - and I doubt I will. Just more audiosnobs just bashing people into massively overspending, like in this thread .Sup so helpfully found:In that thread most people say they are perfectly good and the best for what they are - but there are also a bunch of audiosnobs - who in the end get the guy to increase his budget vastly ($400 to $1000)..Sup wrote:
Bert you can achieve better sound with a proper DAC>analog>Logitech5.1 than letting Logitechs do the converting digital to analog.
OP: I found a 5.1 system discussion (Logi z5500 gets mentioned as well)
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f46/5-1-c … rs-417730/
If you want high quality music then they are not for you, a 2.1 system would be better - but if you want them for movies and gaming they're very good for the price.
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the fucking amplifier driving my sub bridged in my fucking car has 0.01% THD (total harmonic distortion) let alone my home speakers.
Ok, now that's a bit overkill.twoblacklines wrote:
the fucking amplifier driving my sub bridged in my fucking car has 0.01% THD (total harmonic distortion) let alone my home speakers.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Going to have to say the speakers, I have mine, theyre fucking great (for the price)...