.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6714|The Twilight Zone

Mekstizzle wrote:

.Sup wrote:

heh I wouldn't get anything unless perhaps an SSD and a GFX card later when you really need it. With an SSD speed of your PC will be most noticeable, unless you work with stuff that put a really heavy load on the CPU. Also I would OC that CPU, 3.0GHz should be just fine, I've downclocked my CPU from 4Ghz to stock 3Ghz which is more than enough for me.

Edit: also consider a card with HDMI output
SSD's aren't worth the price and not really something to consider when you want to do a somewhat noticeable upgrade, besides the dude has 1TB of space already. He already explained his current CPU OC situation, and a new GFX card is utterly pointless, even if he was using it for gaming.

No point wasting money on a new card for fricken HDMI. They don't output sound, not to my knowledge anyway... and most shit worth its salt that comes with a HDMI comes with DVI.

Go for the new CPU that, that guy suggested. Use your Freezer 7 for it. Buy some of that new fangled paste if you haven't got some. Leave the rest it as it as and spend the rest of your money on booze and weed.

Quad or save up for completely new build.
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he certainly will notice a lot from an SSD. Obviously you haven't seen what a good SSD is capable of.
With SSD its not about storage but speed.

I said consider a card with HDMI. Why not? I didn't say get a card only so you get an HDMI output. And they do output sound. To your knowledge...
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Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6881|London, England
It's not really a waste of money, you don't need to jump onto i7 yet with the DDR3 and all that. Especially since the only i7/1366 boards that are out are the X58 ones.

IMO, that would be a waste of money.
Brasso
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GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

Zimmer wrote:

Ok, say for the sake of upgrading completely, as it's probably a waste of money doing otherwise.

This a good start?

http://i29.tinypic.com/51vbjd.jpg

I have a Corsair HX 520W ATX Modular SLI Compliant Power Supply, is that enough?
Yep, more than enough. And that is totally awsome upgrade.
but a waste.

if you put in a Q9450, the system is pretty good already.

Mekstizzle wrote:

It's not really a waste of money, you don't need to jump onto i7 yet with the DDR3 and all that. Especially since the only i7/1366 boards that are out are the X58 ones.

IMO, that would be a waste of money.
¯\(°_o)/¯ silly mek

edit: oh nvm lil

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GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6675|Finland

I can't deny the awsomeness of i7 build, but best bang for buck do reside in Q9450 & DX11 card.
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Zimmer
Un Moderador
+1,688|7016|Scotland

Let me expand on what I actually use the computer for and then you might see that a full upgrade is not a waste, or still keep the same mindset.

I usually run Dreamweaver, Photoshop, Illustrator, Opera (min 20 tabs), Firefox (min 15 tabs), FTP, Media Monkey (like songbird, iTunes), Internet Explorer (max 4 tabs). Photoshop usually has between 3-5 files, most over the 4MB mark, Dreamweaver has at least 25 files open being edited and Illustrator has one, maybe 2 AI files open. Opera is running IRC as well.
Beduin
Compensation of Reactive Power in the grid
+510|6011|شمال
Wait
الشعب يريد اسقاط النظام
...show me the schematic
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6714|The Twilight Zone

Zimmer wrote:

Let me expand on what I actually use the computer for and then you might see that a full upgrade is not a waste, or still keep the same mindset.

I usually run Dreamweaver, Photoshop, Illustrator, Opera (min 20 tabs), Firefox (min 15 tabs), FTP, Media Monkey (like songbird, iTunes), Internet Explorer (max 4 tabs). Photoshop usually has between 3-5 files, most over the 4MB mark, Dreamweaver has at least 25 files open being edited and Illustrator has one, maybe 2 AI files open. Opera is running IRC as well.
sound to me like you need lots of fast ram and a fast HDD
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GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6675|Finland

Well, i7 is made for heavy work and multitasking. If you can afford it (not best bang for buck you see), it will chew everything you could possibly throw at it for a long time, even longer if you overclock it (they OC like crazy!).
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Brasso
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i'm thinking you should still stick with the Q9450.  if all that is running fine on a dual core, the quad will handle it fine.  you can always overclock it in the future if needed (which i doubt).

edit: i think 8 GB of RAM would help with those adobe programs as well, but keep the processor in mind first

Last edited by haffeysucks (2009-08-17 08:37:30)

"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
Zimmer
Un Moderador
+1,688|7016|Scotland

haffeysucks wrote:

i'm thinking you should still stick with the Q9450.  if all that is running fine on a dual core, the quad will handle it fine.  you can always overclock it in the future if needed (which i doubt).
It isn't running fine on Dual Core. I'm lucky if I open up Photoshop after having Dreamweaver and all the browsers open.
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6675|Finland

Hmm what about this: that i7 build without the graphics card + SSD. You said gaming really isn't a big deal atm, by the time there is some awsome game out there are DX11 cards out.

e: the other combo is Q9450, SSD & DX11 card.

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2009-08-17 08:47:54)

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Brasso
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GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

Hmm what about this: that i7 build without the graphics card + SSD. You said gaming really isn't a big deal atm, by the time there is some awsome game out there are DX11 cards out.
does he really need the SSD though?  how bout an extra 4 GB of the exact same RAM instead?

i think going with either the Q9450 or i7 is really your choice.  personally, i would go with the Q9540 but you know what you're running better than i do.  the i7 is better, yes, but is it worth a new mobo and RAM as well?  you're only getting a little more performance vs the Q9450 but with great SLI/XF scaling, which you don't need atm (correct me if i'm wrong Panz).
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6675|Finland

haffeysucks wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

Hmm what about this: that i7 build without the graphics card + SSD. You said gaming really isn't a big deal atm, by the time there is some awsome game out there are DX11 cards out.
does he really need the SSD though?  how bout an extra 4 GB of the exact same RAM instead?

i think going with either the Q9450 or i7 is really your choice.  personally, i would go with the Q9540 but you know what you're running better than i do.  the i7 is better, yes, but is it worth a new mobo and RAM as well?  you're only getting a little more performance vs the Q9450 but with great SLI/XF scaling, which you don't need atm (correct me if i'm wrong Panz).
yeah its not THAT big difference, but with lots of multitasking there start to be bigger differences. SSD is really THE thing you want for work machine as it pretty much kills all load times to minimum and overall pc will be much more responsive. HDD is the slowest component in PC and when you take the 'handbreak' off, it is noticable gains.
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Zimmer
Un Moderador
+1,688|7016|Scotland

haffeysucks wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

Hmm what about this: that i7 build without the graphics card + SSD. You said gaming really isn't a big deal atm, by the time there is some awsome game out there are DX11 cards out.
does he really need the SSD though?  how bout an extra 4 GB of the exact same RAM instead?

i think going with either the Q9450 or i7 is really your choice.  personally, i would go with the Q9540 but you know what you're running better than i do.  the i7 is better, yes, but is it worth a new mobo and RAM as well?  you're only getting a little more performance vs the Q9450 but with great SLI/XF scaling, which you don't need atm (correct me if i'm wrong Panz).
Hm, problem as well. I run 32 bit Vista. lulz.

That's probably slowing me down as well.
Brasso
member
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okay, here's one thing to try that won't cost you anything: acquire Vista x64 (preferably Ultimate) and install it on another partition.  open all the apps you would normally do while you're working and see if it's zippier than 32 bit.  keep in mind that it's a fresh install though, and that it SHOULD be faster just because of that fact.
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
Zimmer
Un Moderador
+1,688|7016|Scotland

Ugh, what a pain, having to install all the programs again.
Brasso
member
+1,549|6891

Zimmer wrote:

Ugh, what a pain, having to install all the programs again.
you don't have to do it, it was just a bit of an experiment if you have a lot of free time.  which you don't.  i wouldn't do it actually, reinstalling sucks
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6714|The Twilight Zone
Why not Win7?
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FFLink
There is.
+1,380|6951|Devon, England
I'd say Q9450, Faster/More RAM and a good SSD.

All will provide a great speed increase and the ability to have more shit running and run that shit fast.

Shit.
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6714|The Twilight Zone

FFLink wrote:

I'd say Q9450, Faster/More RAM and a good SSD.

All will provide a great speed increase and the ability to have more shit running and run that shit fast.

Shit.
I agree with Linky (and with Panzer too )
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Gooners
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The Q9450 doesn't oc that well Grab a Q9550
Brasso
member
+1,549|6891

SSDs are SO expensive though
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
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Pineapplewhat
+572|6919|BC, Canada

haffeysucks wrote:

SSDs are SO expensive though
FFLink
There is.
+1,380|6951|Devon, England
Well if he's willing to spend £170 on a GPU he doesn't really need, he can use that money for an SSD that will improve performance dramatically.
Brasso
member
+1,549|6891

FFLink wrote:

Well if he's willing to spend £170 on a GPU he doesn't really need, he can use that money for an SSD that will improve performance dramatically.
how are the prices in the UK though?  for a 80 GB in the US, you're looking around the $200+ mark, and not even for an Intel.  whereas for $75 i can get a F1 1TB.
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