Well you know, that's how black people say it.In a National Press release, from the White House :PRESIDENT OBAMA DELIVERS NATIONAL ADDRESS TO AMERICA’S SCHOOCHILDREN
This is not entirely true:TS wrote:
btw, Pres. Bush Sr & Jr never spoke directly to students on a national level. They had other things in priority, like running the country. That's all...
linkThe Australian wrote:
It is not the first time US presidents have spoken directly to students.
Former president George W. Bush was filmed at a school asking children to donate to help in Afghanistan.
A speech by his father, George Bush Sr, was broadcast nationally from a Washington high school in 1991.
Mr Bush urged students to study hard, avoid drugs and ignore peers, "who think it's cool not to be smart".
Yeah, running the country ... into the ground.Teflon Shadow wrote:
They had other things in priority, like running the country.......
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Same here. Politicians on both sides visit schools all the time. Its really no big deal.mr.hrundi wrote:
I really don't get it. here in Germany it's perfectly normal for politicians of most partys to speak in schools or universities and noone cares. noone forces anybody to listen, and it can't be wrong to consider all sides and make own decisions, even at a young age.
And remember, when the puberty starts, most kids do the exact opposite of what their parents did. raise them extremely conservative and they might become liberals just to piss you off, and the other way round.
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Most of ya missed the pointKmarion wrote:
Why are you apologizing? I agree with Reagan for the most part too. Of course Reagan was also a proponent of deficit spending .DBBrinson1 wrote:
Sorry, but Regan actually practiced what he preached and I agree with his ideals.
My point is that I wish my conservative brethren would stop taking their eye off of the ball.http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=129994Kmarion wrote:
Hasn't every president sent some sort of message to school children at some point? They/We really need to pick our battles better.
In a National Press release, from the White House :PRESIDENT OBAMA DELIVERS NATIONAL ADDRESS TO AMERICA’S SCHOOCHILDREN [Before they corrected it a day later...]
You and I both no that if you took out Reagan and put Obama in the the above blockquote the Right would go nuts.On November 14, 1988, Reagan addressed and took questions from students from four area middle schools in the Old Executive Office Building. According to press secretary Marlin Fitzwater, the speech was broadcast live and rebroadcast by C-Span, and Instructional Television Network fed the program “to schools nationwide on three different days.” Much of Reagan’s speech that day covered the American “vision of self-government” and the need “to keep faith with the unfinished vision of the greatness and wonder of America” but in the middle of the speech
Where were the lesson plans put forward by the White House in that instance?
Yes but places like AUS and Germany especially aren't ruled by a two-party system. Germany in particular enjoys party coalitions, whereby to gain passage of bills, parties must build alliances with other coalitions. Here in the US we are dominated by a two-party system. This results in a ridiculous amount of political posturing, by the politicians themselves and by the people stupid enough to proclaim blind alliegence to one of the two bastard children of the Hydra that is US government. So when somebody from one party does something, the goosestepping politicians and constituents of the opposite party deride it in some form. It is pathetic and pedantic.Burwhale wrote:
Same here. Politicians on both sides visit schools all the time. Its really no big deal.mr.hrundi wrote:
I really don't get it. here in Germany it's perfectly normal for politicians of most partys to speak in schools or universities and noone cares. noone forces anybody to listen, and it can't be wrong to consider all sides and make own decisions, even at a young age.
And remember, when the puberty starts, most kids do the exact opposite of what their parents did. raise them extremely conservative and they might become liberals just to piss you off, and the other way round.
I agree with that, but I guess what I really meant was: Why do parents consider not letting their child listen to something a politician from one of the big parties has to say? I could understand that (and would probably do the same) when it was a speaker from a radical party (NPD, the offspring of the NSDAP here in germany comes to mind). Now please don't get me wrong, I know that your children are your business and I have no right to tell you what to do, but seriously, what's wrong with being open minded? Afterwards there is still the possibility to speak about it with the child and tell him or her why the speech was bullshit.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
Yes but places like AUS and Germany especially aren't ruled by a two-party system. Germany in particular enjoys party coalitions, whereby to gain passage of bills, parties must build alliances with other coalitions. Here in the US we are dominated by a two-party system. This results in a ridiculous amount of political posturing, by the politicians themselves and by the people stupid enough to proclaim blind alliegence to one of the two bastard children of the Hydra that is US government. So when something from one party does something, the goosestepping politicians and constituents of the opposite party deride it in some form. It is pathetic and pedantic.Burwhale wrote:
Same here. Politicians on both sides visit schools all the time. Its really no big deal.mr.hrundi wrote:
I really don't get it. here in Germany it's perfectly normal for politicians of most partys to speak in schools or universities and noone cares. noone forces anybody to listen, and it can't be wrong to consider all sides and make own decisions, even at a young age.
And remember, when the puberty starts, most kids do the exact opposite of what their parents did. raise them extremely conservative and they might become liberals just to piss you off, and the other way round.
Are the lesson plans mandatory? Have you read it? It's a page and a half.FEOS wrote:
Where were the lesson plans put forward by the White House in that instance?
Oh, that's right. There weren't any.
Once again, people are losing sight of why everyone's up in arms over this.
It. Is. Not. The. Fact. That. Obama. Is. Giving. A. Speech. To. Schoolkids.
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You guys are so retarded with your bullshit partisanship and strict allegiances. Back when Bush was in power all the lefties constantly ragged on the government and all the righties defended it to death, now it's just the other way round, and you are even admitting it like it's perfectly normal to be like that.
What fucking nonsense. What's the point of even living in a democracy like that.
The US needs a civil war so all the idiots kill each other off.
When Mek's the one posting sane comments in a thread, something's gone seriously wrong.Mekstizzle wrote:
How often do they do that, release transcripts of speeches before they're actually spoken. You guys go too far with your bullshit, I don't even think the left went that far with their bullshit about Bush. It's only been like 8 months and already you guys have gone further and more crazy than they did in 8 years. It's just... well actually it's funny.
Well, it is Mek after all.Kmarion wrote:
"The US needs a civil war so all the idiots kill each other off."
Right, sane.
I really don't understand the reason the WH sent out lesson plans at all. I don't care other than it seems odd. Yes they are optional as is the actual watching, but I do not trust Obama not to use a situation like this to his advantage in some way. I also don't really care, mainly cause my kids won't be in school yet on the 8th.That 'citizen of the world' will not be speaking to my son.Kmarion wrote:
These are suggestions by the Department of Education.. Not a decree from Mein Furor.
PARANOIA.CAN.BE. TREATED
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Yea well, that's AK's problem. They elected her. These are the reasons I'm for smaller government. So I don't have to pay for their debacle. This huge national debt we are leaving to our kids/grandkids is a real reason to be upset.Poseidon wrote:
I mean, if you're gonna get upset about something as semantic as this, where's the outrage over this?
I'm just waiting for some sort of excuse.
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What the video yourself and let us know what you think.Burwhale wrote:
Sounds pretty harmless to me. The conservatives are just trying to scaremonger. Imagine that , a president telling kids that edcation is important. How dare they!
I did. It doesn't seem so sinister to me.Harmor wrote:
What the video yourself and let us know what you think.Burwhale wrote:
Sounds pretty harmless to me. The conservatives are just trying to scaremonger. Imagine that , a president telling kids that edcation is important. How dare they!
Where did you see it? It's a live feed Sept 8th isn't it?Turquoise wrote:
I did. It doesn't seem so sinister to me.Harmor wrote:
What the video yourself and let us know what you think.Burwhale wrote:
Sounds pretty harmless to me. The conservatives are just trying to scaremonger. Imagine that , a president telling kids that edcation is important. How dare they!