Help me win a Bet (Kids Movies)

2009-12-22 11:39:11

#1

Pug: UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate; +652|6958|Texas - Bigger than France

Today, discussing with friend the concept of cramming a tragedy into kiddie movies and literature. My friend doesn't think there's a whole bunch of "tragedy" in kids films. I'm going to prove him wrong.

Hopefully I didn't need to put the spoiler tags on:

Examples:
Babar - (Page one) Royal elephant family frolicks in meadow. (Page two) Hunters shoot Mom & Dad elephant and Babar gets adopted by an old lady. (Page three) Aww, cute elephant in human clothes.

Little Nemo - Happy clownfish couple naming eggs. Shark kills everyone except dude clownfish and nemo egg

Santa Claus is Coming to Town (tv) - Santa actually is an orphan who is rejected by a german douchebag governor

I can bore you with a list I have already, but WTF...boredom killer right?

Anyone want to suggest a few blatantly tragic kiddy entertainment shows/books, etc?

Bonus points for answering the "why did they have to kill the parents (or other tragic event)" question?

2009-12-22 11:40:06

#2

King_County_Downy: shitfaced; +2,791|7013|Seattle

Bambi???

Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it

2009-12-22 11:40:28

#3

Superior Mind: (not macbeth); +1,755|7109

Lion King.
Bambi.

x

2009-12-22 11:41:59

#4

Gooners: Wiki Contributor; +2,700|7048

Lion King

goddamn, i cried.

2009-12-22 11:44:12

#5

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6886

your weird capitalization of 'bet' made me think you were talking about Black Entertainment Television awards

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2009-12-22 11:44:49

#6

13rin: Member; +977|6895

That's the Disney formula. Kill off a parent, have a re-kindeling relationship. Kid struggles and triumphs. If is an animal move, the animals are all smarter than the people, I call that the flipper effect.

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2009-12-22 12:27:41

#7

loubot: O' HAL naw!; +470|6994|Columbus, OH

Bonus points for answering the "why did they have to kill the parents (or other tragic event)" question?

to make the movie into a sob story, to imply the character is /will be struggling to some degree. Exetreme Makeover: Home Edition (which is on ABC, Disney owned channel) plays on the sob story frequently.

2009-12-22 12:29:47

#8

Benzin: Member; +576|6414

Plenty of tragedy in children's movies.

2009-12-22 12:31:01

#9

Pug: UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate; +652|6958|Texas - Bigger than France

loubot wrote:
Bonus points for answering the "why did they have to kill the parents (or other tragic event)" question?
to make the movie into a sob story, to imply the character is /will be struggling to some degree. Exetreme Makeover: Home Edition (which is on ABC, Disney owned channel) plays on the sob story frequently.

Sure, but why?

My answer was "there's crap in life you have to overcome", hidden within a cute retarded penguin who tap dances.

2009-12-22 12:32:23

#10

Reddhedd: trolawlawl; +188|6861|EE Chat

Every single Disney movie. Little mermaid: mom is dead. Aladdin: he is a street urchin. Lion King: Dad dies. Bambi: Mom shot by hunters. etc etc etc

2009-12-22 12:38:59

#11

Pug: UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate; +652|6958|Texas - Bigger than France

Now I'm kind of wondering why they have to kill the parent to make a point.

Most of these movies are geared for kids under 8 yrs old right?

Another - Tale of Despreaux

2009-12-22 12:46:28

#12

mtb0minime: minimember; +2,418|7070

Adding to the Disney movies: Fox and the Hound. God that was so sad.

I would say that kids movies nowadays aren't as tragic (or maybe the previews make it seem that way because I don't watch any kids movies nowadays), but back when I was growing up and watching Disney movies, they could be pretty depressing at times.

2009-12-22 13:41:24

#13

Pug: UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate; +652|6958|Texas - Bigger than France

mtb0minime wrote:
Adding to the Disney movies: Fox and the Hound. God that was so sad.

I would say that kids movies nowadays aren't as tragic (or maybe the previews make it seem that way because I don't watch any kids movies nowadays), but back when I was growing up and watching Disney movies, they could be pretty depressing at times.

Beg to differ

WALL-E - Orphaned robot left on destroyed planet to clean it up

Astroboy - Scientist creates an exact replica of son, who was vaporized by a killer robot

Alvin and the Chimpmunks - Rodents are left to fend for themselves when their parents leave them, find some washed-up actor to adopt them.

UP - Man marries his girlfriend from when he was a kid. They have a wonderful life until she dies about 15 minutes into the movie and then he straps balloons to his house and abuses a boy scout in the privacy of his airborne adobe.

Ratatouille - Rat is one of a million kids, but mom is dead.

Oh finally - I found a recent one with not so much tragedy - The Incredibles.

2009-12-22 14:32:31

#14

Eagle: Togs8896 is my evil alter ego; +567|7047|New Hampshire, USA

Tarzan. His birth parents are mauled by a fucking cheeta. Then later his step-dad (gorilla) gets fucking shot and dies. Talk about tragedy

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2009-12-22 14:56:36

#15

Miggle: FUCK UBISOFT; +1,411|7158|FUCK UBISOFT

it would be harder to find a childrens movie without anything bad happening in it.

2009-12-22 15:03:40

#16

TopHat01: Limitless; +117|6320|CA

"Cars" was different in the fact that there really wasn't a specific tragedy; he is just being stuck in the middle of nowhere. The main character is an arrogant prick throughout the whole story, too.

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2009-12-22 15:04:21