Have u guys ever realised that when u fly a mig or a j-10, the missiles seem to pass this damn jet when it doesnt flare? I can only get it when its flying straight.
I noted that with the MEC bomber (Su-34) that it is extremely good at dodging missiles with a simple turn. I think that it's so slow that it outruns the fast missiles by being slow (I know that didnt make sence, anyone else have a reason? =P)
probably the hit boxes on those planes are smaller
the game could be more balenced if all the fighter just behaved the same and all the bombers did
make all fighters like the Mig29 and make all bombers fly like the Su30 with smaller hit boxes and it would be good
oh and give chopper TV missles there range back along with the 14 rockets
the game could be more balenced if all the fighter just behaved the same and all the bombers did
make all fighters like the Mig29 and make all bombers fly like the Su30 with smaller hit boxes and it would be good
oh and give chopper TV missles there range back along with the 14 rockets
Flares work pretty well for the bombers because they are slow and hence the flares effect last longer. I believe bomber flares reload faster then normal jet flares, although I could be mistaken it has been a while. Once you're out of flares, its hamburger city though, that and MGs still work wonders on a big target like that.
The J10 is so fast and has such powerful turns, the slightly tweaked AA has huge trouble landing on it, and even if you get hit with one it takes 3-4 in the J10 now to actually get shot down (meanwhile you can repair as nobody will hit you 3 in a row). For some reason the damage they do against the J10 seems to be minimal if you are turning and have afterburners on, but if you fly straight with no burn you will take more damage. Try it, it's kinda funky.
The F35 on the other hand just dies with two every time as soon as the flares are gone, you can loose missles at the ugliest of angles and it still works lol. Poor bastards
The J10 is so fast and has such powerful turns, the slightly tweaked AA has huge trouble landing on it, and even if you get hit with one it takes 3-4 in the J10 now to actually get shot down (meanwhile you can repair as nobody will hit you 3 in a row). For some reason the damage they do against the J10 seems to be minimal if you are turning and have afterburners on, but if you fly straight with no burn you will take more damage. Try it, it's kinda funky.
The F35 on the other hand just dies with two every time as soon as the flares are gone, you can loose missles at the ugliest of angles and it still works lol. Poor bastards
the f-35 is a flying coffin
so trueAyumiz wrote:
the f-35 is a flying coffin
i can go freaking half looping-spinning-doing crazy back turns-and stuff and lose the j-10 on my ass
but the missiles still hits me lol
on the other hand, it's slightly harder for f-35b to hit turning j-10 with missiles because they turn so fast
when i shoot missiles at j-10 with flares, missiles follows the jet and just flies to nowhere
that's why i love j-10 and not really flying anything else anymore
Last edited by washow (2006-04-21 14:47:32)
If you can't shoot down an F-18 with a MiG or J-10, you must suck at flying.
By the way, it only takes 2 missles to down any of the four fighters, it's just you can never land two consecutive hits on the J-10 unless you get really lucky.
By the way, it only takes 2 missles to down any of the four fighters, it's just you can never land two consecutive hits on the J-10 unless you get really lucky.
Yes, the J-10 AND F-18 are both adept at avoiding missles due to smaller hit boxes.
real men use guns to shoot down planes. its more entertaing to watch the other piolt squirm as you riddle his plane full of holes.
Who remembers 1942?
When you could down those b!tchez with pistols and shit
When you could down those b!tchez with pistols and shit
The J10 takes 3-4 four missles to down if you are using after burners and turning at the time of getting hit. Go try it, it seems to be some kind of new thing with the AA. Like you know with C4 when you detonate, at certain radii it does different amounts of damage. Well with the J10 it seems like the AA missles only do full damage with a direct hit and no afterburn. Anything faster and they do gimped damage. Honestly, go fly a bit and you will see what I mean, 2 hits won't take you down, and you then have plenty of time to repair. Even more of an advantage for the J10 I'm afraid.CrazeD wrote:
If you can't shoot down an F-18 with a MiG or J-10, you must suck at flying.
By the way, it only takes 2 missles to down any of the four fighters, it's just you can never land two consecutive hits on the J-10 unless you get really lucky.
I think that is sucks balls against the J10 otherwise it is pretty good
Yes, you are correct.. it's kind of ironic too, since this jet moves slower than the f35b. Oh well, if missiles don't work, blast his arse with the guns.Ayumiz wrote:
Have u guys ever realised that when u fly a mig or a j-10, the missiles seem to pass this damn jet when it doesnt flare? I can only get it when its flying straight.
i think the NAW mod got the jet speeds right, those jets are damn fun to fly.
Umm. I THINK F-18 is the ONLY jet that stands a chance against those J-10s. Only thing preventing them from tearing everything a new asshole.
the euro fighter seems to be the worst for missiles hugging enemy jets. it's fucking ridiculous, it's not like they just miss, they slide right over the whole plane then carry on... often into your team mates.
Too true, a shame because that is my favourite plane.Ayumiz wrote:
the f-35 is a flying coffin
Although I was playing wake a few days ago and I got 25:0 for kills:deaths. I evaded and lost a J-10 twice during that game. I was rather surprised, maybe the J-10 pilot was just crap.
I also shot down two J-10's. One strafing the carrier (that asshole was too concerned with raping my team-mates) and another by bomb/missle switching.
Last edited by mcminty (2006-04-21 19:45:59)
I kills lots of J10s in an F35. MiGs too.
Just when they're not in the air
Just when they're not in the air
Yeah, the NaW jet physics>BF2's.kontrolcrimson wrote:
i think the NAW mod got the jet speeds right, those jets are damn fun to fly.
polarbearz wrote:
I kills lots of J10s in an F35. MiGs too.
Just when they're not in the air
too close for missles, I'm switching to guns.SaladForks wrote:
I noted that with the MEC bomber (Su-34) that it is extremely good at dodging missiles with a simple turn. I think that it's so slow that it outruns the fast missiles by being slow (I know that didnt make sence, anyone else have a reason? =P)
im just learning how to pull that off, im never sure if i getting hits...Elamdri wrote:
too close for missles, I'm switching to guns.
Last edited by kontrolcrimson (2006-04-21 21:48:28)
yeha, it is pretty much guess work telling if you hit. i find the best way to tell is see if the other guy starts manuvering more. if he is, your hitting him, if hes flying you're not there, your not hitting him. just remember when using guns to stick in bomb mode, so they aren't alerted by your lock on them.
You gotta lead the shots. Make sure you're in bombing mode so noob pilots won't get the missle lock. Then gun em down, you can usually get most of their health before they freak and start manuevering. At that point you can either slow down and lead your vulcan to kill them or switch back to missles and give them an enema.kontrolcrimson wrote:
im just learning how to pull that off, im never sure if i getting hits...Elamdri wrote:
too close for missles, I'm switching to guns.
My bad, I thought you meant 3 - 4 direct hits.[CANADA]_Zenmaster wrote:
The J10 takes 3-4 four missles to down if you are using after burners and turning at the time of getting hit. Go try it, it seems to be some kind of new thing with the AA. Like you know with C4 when you detonate, at certain radii it does different amounts of damage. Well with the J10 it seems like the AA missles only do full damage with a direct hit and no afterburn. Anything faster and they do gimped damage. Honestly, go fly a bit and you will see what I mean, 2 hits won't take you down, and you then have plenty of time to repair. Even more of an advantage for the J10 I'm afraid.CrazeD wrote:
If you can't shoot down an F-18 with a MiG or J-10, you must suck at flying.
By the way, it only takes 2 missles to down any of the four fighters, it's just you can never land two consecutive hits on the J-10 unless you get really lucky.