Ayumiz
J-10 whore
+103|7204|Singapore
Have u guys ever realised that when u fly a mig or a j-10, the missiles seem to pass this damn jet when it doesnt flare? I can only get it when its flying straight.
SaladForks
/ph34r
+129|7053|Eastern USA
I noted that with the MEC bomber (Su-34) that it is extremely good at dodging missiles with a simple turn. I think that it's so slow that it outruns the fast missiles by being slow (I know that didnt make sence, anyone else have a reason? =P)
Capt. Foley
Member
+155|7058|Allentown, PA, USA
probably the hit boxes on those planes are smaller
the game could be more balenced if all the fighter just behaved the same and all the bombers did
make all fighters like the Mig29 and make all bombers fly like the Su30 with smaller hit boxes and it would be good
oh and give chopper TV missles there range back along with the 14 rockets
[CANADA]_Zenmaster
Pope Picard II
+473|7216

Flares work pretty well for the bombers because they are slow and hence the flares effect last longer. I believe bomber flares reload faster then normal jet flares, although I could be mistaken it has been a while. Once you're out of flares, its hamburger city though, that and MGs still work wonders on a big target like that.

The J10 is so fast and has such powerful turns, the slightly tweaked AA has huge trouble landing on it, and even if you get hit with one it takes 3-4 in the J10 now to actually get shot down (meanwhile you can repair as nobody will hit you 3 in a row). For some reason the damage they do against the J10 seems to be minimal if you are turning and have afterburners on, but if you fly straight with no burn you will take more damage. Try it, it's kinda funky.

The F35 on the other hand just dies with two every time as soon as the flares are gone, you can loose missles at the ugliest of angles and it still works lol. Poor bastards
Ayumiz
J-10 whore
+103|7204|Singapore
the f-35 is a flying coffin
washow
Get out of MY JET!!!
+23|7182

Ayumiz wrote:

the f-35 is a flying coffin
so true

i can go freaking half looping-spinning-doing crazy back turns-and stuff and lose the j-10 on my ass
but the missiles still hits me lol

on the other hand, it's slightly harder for f-35b to hit turning j-10 with missiles because they turn so fast
when i shoot missiles at j-10 with flares, missiles follows the jet and just flies to nowhere

that's why i love j-10 and not really flying anything else anymore

Last edited by washow (2006-04-21 14:47:32)

CrazeD
Member
+368|7143|Maine
If you can't shoot down an F-18 with a MiG or J-10, you must suck at flying.

By the way, it only takes 2 missles to down any of the four fighters, it's just you can never land two consecutive hits on the J-10 unless you get really lucky.
Ajax_the_Great1
Dropped on request
+206|7117
Yes, the J-10 AND F-18 are both adept at avoiding missles due to smaller hit boxes.
dedelus
Member
+4|7124
real men use guns to shoot down planes.  its more entertaing to watch the other piolt squirm as you riddle his plane full of holes.
Sarrk
O-O-O A-O A
+788|7126|Brisbane, Australia

Who remembers 1942?

When you could down those b!tchez with pistols and shit
[CANADA]_Zenmaster
Pope Picard II
+473|7216

CrazeD wrote:

If you can't shoot down an F-18 with a MiG or J-10, you must suck at flying.

By the way, it only takes 2 missles to down any of the four fighters, it's just you can never land two consecutive hits on the J-10 unless you get really lucky.
The J10 takes 3-4 four missles to down if you are using after burners and turning at the time of getting hit. Go try it, it seems to be some kind of new thing with the AA. Like you know with C4 when you detonate, at certain radii it does different amounts of damage. Well with the J10 it seems like the AA missles only do full damage with a direct hit and no afterburn. Anything faster and they do gimped damage. Honestly, go fly a bit and you will see what I mean, 2 hits won't take you down, and you then have plenty of time to repair. Even more of an advantage for the J10 I'm afraid.
specops10-4
Member
+108|7214|In the hills
I think that is sucks balls against the J10 otherwise it is pretty good
[-DER-]Omega
membeR
+188|7297|Lithuania

Ayumiz wrote:

Have u guys ever realised that when u fly a mig or a j-10, the missiles seem to pass this damn jet when it doesnt flare? I can only get it when its flying straight.
Yes, you are correct.. it's kind of ironic too, since this jet moves slower than the f35b. Oh well, if missiles don't work, blast his arse with the guns.
https://bf3s.com/sigs/fe717ed1eb823c939460a42f15bced7dd0057c51.png
kontrolcrimson
Get your body beat.
+183|7298|Australia
i think the NAW mod got the jet speeds right, those jets are damn fun to fly.
polarbearz
Raiders of the Lost Bear
+-1,474|7259|Singapore

Umm. I THINK F-18 is the ONLY jet that stands a chance against those J-10s. Only thing preventing them from tearing everything a new asshole.
NoS
karma padder
+13|7097|UK
the euro fighter seems to be the worst for missiles hugging enemy jets. it's fucking ridiculous, it's not like they just miss, they slide right over the whole plane then carry on... often into your team mates.
mcminty
Moderating your content for the Australian Govt.
+879|7192|Sydney, Australia

Ayumiz wrote:

the f-35 is a flying coffin
Too true, a shame because that is my favourite plane.

Although I was playing wake a few days ago and I got 25:0 for kills:deaths. I evaded and lost a J-10 twice during that game. I was rather surprised, maybe the J-10 pilot was just crap.

I also shot down two J-10's. One strafing the carrier (that asshole was too concerned with raping my team-mates) and another by bomb/missle switching.

Last edited by mcminty (2006-04-21 19:45:59)

polarbearz
Raiders of the Lost Bear
+-1,474|7259|Singapore

I kills lots of J10s in an F35. MiGs too.

Just when they're not in the air
VeNg3nCe^
¦Tactics Øver Principles¦
+314|7176|Antarctica

kontrolcrimson wrote:

i think the NAW mod got the jet speeds right, those jets are damn fun to fly.
Yeah, the NaW jet physics>BF2's.
Ayumiz
J-10 whore
+103|7204|Singapore

polarbearz wrote:

I kills lots of J10s in an F35. MiGs too.

Just when they're not in the air
Elamdri
The New Johnnie Cochran
+134|7117|Peoria

SaladForks wrote:

I noted that with the MEC bomber (Su-34) that it is extremely good at dodging missiles with a simple turn. I think that it's so slow that it outruns the fast missiles by being slow (I know that didnt make sence, anyone else have a reason? =P)
too close for missles, I'm switching to guns.
kontrolcrimson
Get your body beat.
+183|7298|Australia

Elamdri wrote:

too close for missles, I'm switching to guns.
im just learning how to pull that off, im never sure if i getting hits...

Last edited by kontrolcrimson (2006-04-21 21:48:28)

dedelus
Member
+4|7124
yeha, it is pretty much guess work telling if you hit.  i find the best way to tell is see if the other guy starts manuvering more.  if he is, your hitting him, if hes flying you're not there, your not hitting him.  just remember when using guns to stick in bomb mode, so they aren't alerted by your lock on them.
Elamdri
The New Johnnie Cochran
+134|7117|Peoria

kontrolcrimson wrote:

Elamdri wrote:

too close for missles, I'm switching to guns.
im just learning how to pull that off, im never sure if i getting hits...
You gotta lead the shots. Make sure you're in bombing mode so noob pilots won't get the missle lock. Then gun em down, you can usually get most of their health before they freak and start manuevering. At that point you can either slow down and lead your vulcan to kill them or switch back to missles and give them an enema.
CrazeD
Member
+368|7143|Maine

[CANADA]_Zenmaster wrote:

CrazeD wrote:

If you can't shoot down an F-18 with a MiG or J-10, you must suck at flying.

By the way, it only takes 2 missles to down any of the four fighters, it's just you can never land two consecutive hits on the J-10 unless you get really lucky.
The J10 takes 3-4 four missles to down if you are using after burners and turning at the time of getting hit. Go try it, it seems to be some kind of new thing with the AA. Like you know with C4 when you detonate, at certain radii it does different amounts of damage. Well with the J10 it seems like the AA missles only do full damage with a direct hit and no afterburn. Anything faster and they do gimped damage. Honestly, go fly a bit and you will see what I mean, 2 hits won't take you down, and you then have plenty of time to repair. Even more of an advantage for the J10 I'm afraid.
My bad, I thought you meant 3 - 4 direct hits.

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