0akleaves
Member
+183|7084|Newcastle UK
i know this question has been asked a million times but i like the m95 and the l96a1, but i like them both the same and watching sniper videos mainly nytes over and over, (well done by the way) i never know when to use what rifle theres no performance differance between them i get about same kills with each. so hwat rifle and when
You have to learn the rules of the game and then you have to play better than anyone else.
Towelly
It's A State Of Mind
+399|7062|Your attic

Evil-fruits|ST4R wrote:

i know this question has been asked a million times but i like the m95 and the l96a1, but i like them both the same and watching sniper videos mainly nytes over and over, (well done by the way) i never know when to use what rifle theres no performance differance between them i get about same kills with each. so hwat rifle and when
Slightly wrong, the M95 will reduce any soldier(who has full healt) to 2 bars of health with a shot to the torso, the L9 and the M24 on the other hand put them down to 1/3 health, and that can make a lot of difference. Also the M95 is a tiny bit less accurate (not becuase of the sight)
HellHead
The fantastic Mr. Antichrist
+336|7180|Germany

Towelly wrote:

Evil-fruits|ST4R wrote:

i know this question has been asked a million times but i like the m95 and the l96a1, but i like them both the same and watching sniper videos mainly nytes over and over, (well done by the way) i never know when to use what rifle theres no performance differance between them i get about same kills with each. so hwat rifle and when
Slightly wrong, the M95 will reduce any soldier(who has full healt) to 2 bars of health with a shot to the torso, the L9 and the M24 on the other hand put them down to 1/3 health, and that can make a lot of difference. Also the M95 is a tiny bit less accurate (not becuase of the sight)
Sorry to say that, but you are wrong...M95, M24 and L96 all take your health done to two bars if hit by them in the torso.
Towelly
It's A State Of Mind
+399|7062|Your attic

HellHead wrote:

Sorry to say that, but you are wrong...M95, M24 and L96 all take your health done to two bars if hit by them in the torso.
Really??? I'm certain this isn't the case, but then I'm wrong a fair ammount of the time.
Fabbi_Kanin
Member
+46|7071
The M95 Barret also penetrates bullet-proof glass on airplanes and helicopters
SaladForks
/ph34r
+129|7053|Eastern USA
To go aside from the topic of sniper rifle damages, I'll take the L96 over any sniper rifle. If you dont have that, then I suggest SVD.

These are what I've discovered through my experience, deal with this how you please.

SVD = 1 hit kill if hit in head, plus its a semi auto and not bolt action, so I liked it a lot. Just think of 10 kills without reloading if all are headshots (For you good snipers )

L96 = The thickness of the crosshairs are amazing as well as the accuracy.

M95 = I'll use this when I want a bit more of a challenge, because it has (From my experience), more of a bullet drop than the others. The thickness of crosshairs seem thicker and its harder to see the targets if you're far.

M24 = Alternative to L96. Also bolt action but is more accurate than M95.
iCeMaN[USA]
Member
+82|7046|Eastern USA
HellHead you're correct.  The M24, M95, and L96A1 all take a person down to 2 bars on a torso shot.  As for which sniper to use, its easy.  If you are on a map that is mainly infantry (Karkand) use the L96A1.  Its easier to place shots at 380M+ because of the scope.  If you are on a map with alot of jets/choppers (Wake Island) use the M95
TheDarkRaven
ATG's First Disciple
+263|7095|Birmingham, UK
Ah yes, the M95. If you want to do a game without helicopters, the L96A1 is your friend (accuracy-wise). Mashtuur and other maps where you don't expect to see stationary helicopters - L96A1 again. With the maps such as Operation Clean Sweep (indeed I did this on this map twice today, just 4 hours ago), get in the transport chopper with you squad. Drop everyone apart from the squad leader on the American artillery (I am assuming you are MEC here). Squad leader keeps going up and up so you can keep spawning on him if you die. You are a sniper with the M95. Take out those people in the Cobra, Blackhawks, even the planes! Really fun! However, always aim a little above their head, or even at the top of their head at fairly close range. Also, as mentioned above accuracy is a killer. But most of all, have fun, and enjoy!

P.S. Also, I was parachuting down from the transport chopper when I saw two guys get in the Cobra. I then, just for laughs, took a couple of pot shots at the pilot. First one missed - "Fair 'nough". Second one - "Wow! I actually killed him!"! Good times!
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7178|67.222.138.85
As far as damage on M95 and L96 or m24, your all right. The M95 brings any classes no matter what down to two bars of health. The L96 and the m24 bring down all the classes without body armor down to two bars, those classes being spec-ops, sniper, medic, and engineer. These are the ones with the longer sprint, presumably because they are weighted down with body armor. Then the m24 and L96 bring down any class with body armor down to a third health, those classes being assault, support, and anti-tank, also the ones with the shorter sprint.

However, as stated above on any non-chopper map, I go with the L96 because of its amazing accuracy and it can still kill any soldier in two shots. As far as the SVD, the only place I have found a use for it is I have found it to be extremely effective is protecting the Hotel as MEC, otherwise it just isn't accurate enough for me, and I can tell the difference.

This coming from someone who just got a 47 kill sniper round on karkand last night.
Defiance
Member
+438|7142

Oh sweet god we've got another Nyte on our hands.

Flaming_Maniac: You are not the shit. 47 kills on karkand as sniper isn't anything to be proud of. It's better then average, but unless you can do it all the time, shush.

And if you can't tell the difference in accuracy with the SVD, you're a retard. If you can, here's a fucking medal.

I go for M95. It's got a much steeper learning curve, but if you manage to actually learn (you need more then practice) how to use it, it's as good as anything else.

If you hit someone to a third health, you hit the arm/leg.

Last edited by Defiance (2006-04-27 15:30:55)

Naughty_Om
Im Ron Burgundy?
+355|7104|USA
L96A1 and the M95 do the same damage, M24 does 1/2 damage

The L9 and M95 are on par together cept the accuracy difference, but the L9 doesnt shoot through glass and the M95 obliterates any armor. shoot a BLACK smoking chopper and its goin DOWN.
[BHA]*SharpShooter
Banned
+159|7050|behind you

Towelly wrote:

Evil-fruits|ST4R wrote:

i know this question has been asked a million times but i like the m95 and the l96a1, but i like them both the same and watching sniper videos mainly nytes over and over, (well done by the way) i never know when to use what rifle theres no performance differance between them i get about same kills with each. so hwat rifle and when
Slightly wrong, the M95 will reduce any soldier(who has full healt) to 2 bars of health with a shot to the torso, the L9 and the M24 on the other hand put them down to 1/3 health, and that can make a lot of difference. Also the M95 is a tiny bit less accurate (not becuase of the sight)
shit nice sniper vid
+1 for u
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7178|67.222.138.85

Defiance wrote:

Oh sweet god we've got another Nyte on our hands.

Flaming_Maniac: You are not the shit. 47 kills on karkand as sniper isn't anything to be proud of. It's better then average, but unless you can do it all the time, shush.

And if you can't tell the difference in accuracy with the SVD, you're a retard. If you can, here's a fucking medal.

I go for M95. It's got a much steeper learning curve, but if you manage to actually learn (you need more then practice) how to use it, it's as good as anything else.

If you hit someone to a third health, you hit the arm/leg.
First of all, no I am not "the shit", but we'll get back to that later.

Now, as far as the accuracy of the SVD. Actually, it is pretty darn accurate. If you can aim and shoot properly nad not sparay five shots in two seconds, it's pretty darn accurate. I'm not saying it's hard to tell the difference, my point is that the SVD cannot even prove to be accurate to the distance of it's scope. I wasn't saying how "1337" I was that I could tell the difference, but was more referring to an above poster that said "Just think of it like ten shots without reloading," and showing that even with skill, you can't gauruntee ten headshots at any distance, as I thought that could be fairly misleading. By the way thanks for the medal.

As far the m95 goes, it's a fine gun, but even if you "know how to use it", which I highly disagree that it has any more learning curve than the others, you just have to know how to hold your shot for a second beofre you fire to let your sights settle, it takes longer to line up a shot with the m95 than with the L96 or the m24. That's all there is to it. It does have slightly less than laser like accuracy, and it has slightly thicker than razor-thin crosshairs, but it takes a fraction of a second longer to line up a shot with the m95 than the others. I don't think it makes a big deal with an overall k/d in a round, but I think it makes a difference in sniper duels. It is great for harassing enemy jets/choppers on their pad, but on karkand, the extra damage against targets with body armor is not a big plus in my opinion. And if it does have such a good learning curve, what's the point if as you say it will only be as good as everything else.

Wow. I don't know how many times this has been said. Do you know about body armor? If your target has body armor on, then the L96 and m24 will always bring you down to a third health when shot anywhere except the head, which is of course always a kill. It's really not a had concept, and you can try it yourself. Just get on an empty server with one of your friends, get an L96, tell him to be AT, then shoot him in the chest. Ask him how much damage he takes. Even if you don't have any friends, I'll get on with you and test it out. So no more excuses for ignorance ok?

Ok, now about me being "the shit". First of all, let's just get straight that my original comment was meant to show that I have some experience in the area and am not some nutjob quoting what he saw at another site. Now, about 47 kills in a round. First of all, have you ever done this? To clarify, that's 47 kills sniper only, no vehicles, about 2 claymore kills and 5 pistol kills, and the rest were rifle kills. Again, no tanks, no cars, no arty whatever. Throw in 2 flag caps, straight caps and not assists, break a hundred and get gold on a 64 player map with 40-50 players that night. Have fun. And I've broken 40 sniper only kills on servers like that at least 5 times sniper only, but you see, sniper isn't the only thing i play, in fact my favorite class is actually medic. By the way, what do you do as a sniper? 65 hours as a sniper, but only 45 with the sniper rifle? Along with only 8 hours with a pistol? 12 hours in armor as a sniper? Almost 20% of your time? I have about 4 more hours as you with a sniper rifle but about 1,400 more kills. I must've been pretty busy those last four hours. Honestly, I think that anything over 40 kills as a sniper IAR is pretty good, and I would like you to enlighten me as to what you consdier a good sniper round to be?
Fatman
=cREE=
+11|7106
lmao svd ftw +1 for you flaming
Sgt.Zubie
Member
+77|7046
I love the SVD, I got 17 kill's with it on Karkand the other day. I know not that great but for me it is and I had a blast! There was a squad of 6 on top of the first building you can climb coming down the right side if your USMC. I was on top of that building where you go up the stair's laying by that water tower I think it is and anyway got 8 kill's off them because of there Medic reviving before they got me!

That was sweet for me!

I also like the M24 and the PLA type 88?

Back on topic just use them all and experiment! I plan on unlocking M95 and L96 when I make Staff Sgt.
Statikcat
Member
+4|7069
SRAW is the best Sniper weapon IMO
Tushers
Noctwisaskfirtush
+224|7156|Some where huntin in Wisconsin
you guys are all on drugs, sheesh all the nsipers but the type 88 and, the SVD take a fully healthed person down to two health no matter what if he has armour or not, the typer 88 takes out a fully armoured person down 5-6 bar if i amcorect, but w/o aroumour they go down in 4 hits and it is the same with the SVD i just tried it!!! well peace out Eric time for bed
pwned7
Member
+53|7049
handguns are the best for long range :p
THA
im a fucking .....well not now
+609|7241|AUS, Canberra
for all the non belivers.

http://wiki.bf2s.com/weapons/comparison
stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|7191|California

shoot in the face, that somehow kills people
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7178|67.222.138.85

stryyker wrote:

shoot in the face, that somehow kills people
I think that's the best advice so far.
deject
Got His War On
+37|7245|Golden, CO

the_heart_attack wrote:

for all the non belivers.

http://wiki.bf2s.com/weapons/comparison
READ THIS OR BE AN IDIOT.
0akleaves
Member
+183|7084|Newcastle UK
thanx i love the m95 on wake camping out on a boat to the side of the carrier killing those poilets and vice versa
You have to learn the rules of the game and then you have to play better than anyone else.

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