GR34
Member
+215|6804|ALBERTA> CANADA
MY little brothers computers HDD died so I got him a new one.

its old AMD 3500+ 1GB x1650 512mb can I slap Windows 7 on this with out too much trouble or should I some how "acquire XP"
alexb
<3
+590|6198|Kentucky, USA

Windows 7 Starter Edition would be the only edition that would properly run imo.
Better off acquiring a copy of XP.
DUnlimited
got any popo lolo intersting?
+1,160|6722|cuntshitlake

Win7 does not really effectively work with 1GB of ram
main battle tank karthus medikopter 117 megamegapowershot gg
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6456|Winland

Windows 7 runs just fine on 1GB. I'm sitting at a can that's running 7 on 1GB right now. If he's made it with 1GB on XP, he'll make it even better on 7, as it's far superior at handing RAM.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
DUnlimited
got any popo lolo intersting?
+1,160|6722|cuntshitlake

I have used Win7 with 1GB of ram and it was pain in the ass.
main battle tank karthus medikopter 117 megamegapowershot gg
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6456|Winland

DUnlimited wrote:

I have used Win7 with 1GB of ram and it was pain in the ass.
You must have done something wrong. You didn't try to play games on it, did you? Because that ain't gonna work on 1GB no matter what your OS is.

Look at this:

https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb8/Freezer7Pro/Untitled-6.png

That's my computer with three Firefox windows (and 20+ tabs), six or more Explorer windows, Defraggler and four of the Openoffice programs running. I think that is indeed quite usable.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
SonderKommando
Eat, Lift, Grow, Repeat....
+564|6918|The darkside of Denver

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Windows 7 runs just fine on 1GB. I'm sitting at a can that's running 7 on 1GB right now. If he's made it with 1GB on XP, he'll make it even better on 7, as it's far superior at handing RAM.
This is truth.  We are testing our windows 7 image of 7 enterprise on some SHITTY gateways.  Im talking P4 1Gram if we're lucky.  Most of em we are getting in we bump up to two gig before re-deployment.  Anyways, it runs fine on 1GB, and the AMD64 3500+ is no slouch (for its time), its not like he will be gaming on this thing.
CammRobb
Banned
+1,510|6389|Carnoustie MASSIF
I'm runnin 7 on my laptop with a 2.1 sempron and 1 gig ram and it's fine when I'm browsing the Internet and watching something on vlc
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6673|Finland

Freezer7Pro wrote:

DUnlimited wrote:

I have used Win7 with 1GB of ram and it was pain in the ass.
You must have done something wrong. You didn't try to play games on it, did you? Because that ain't gonna work on 1GB no matter what your OS is.
This is on Win 7. One game, BC2 this time, running + FF and couple tabs.

https://img38.imageshack.us/img38/6946/ramusage7.jpg

FF + couple tabs + steam etc. but idle

https://img59.imageshack.us/img59/9897/ramusage7idle.jpg

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2010-04-28 04:46:47)

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Finray
Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro
+2,629|6047|Catherine Black
https://img543.imageshack.us/img543/4058/ss20100414184656.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/qwWEP9F.png
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6673|Finland

staged, you aren't supposed to be watching HD video while doing PS.

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2010-04-28 05:18:26)

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globefish23
sophisticated slacker
+334|6582|Graz, Austria
Heater in the corner behind the door?
I don't want to know how the air circulation is in that room.

I once had a room where it was like that and you were sweating like in a sauna when near the door and freezing near the window.
Finray
Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro
+2,629|6047|Catherine Black

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

staged, you aren't supposed to be watching HD video while doing PS.
Hey, that's only 720p, I could have put a BR encode of Iron Man on.
https://i.imgur.com/qwWEP9F.png
tazz.
oz.
+1,338|6433|Sydney | ♥

freezer isnt running aero


/thread.
everything i write is a ramble and should not be taken seriously.... seriously.
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6456|Winland

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

DUnlimited wrote:

I have used Win7 with 1GB of ram and it was pain in the ass.
You must have done something wrong. You didn't try to play games on it, did you? Because that ain't gonna work on 1GB no matter what your OS is.
This is on Win 7. One game, BC2 this time, running + FF and couple tabs.

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/6946/ramusage7.jpg

FF + couple tabs + steam etc. but idle

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/9897/ramusage7idle.jpg
What's that supposed to demonstrate? Windows uses unused RAM for caching, if the point you're making is that you're using more than a gigabyte.

tazz. wrote:

freezer isnt running aero


/thread.
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb8/Freezer7Pro/Untitled-7.png

Holy hell, 40MB!
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5437|Sydney
Wait, you're running Win7 with on Aero and only using 700MB of RAM?

I'm idle and only running Chrome as an application (not too many processes either) and I'm sitting at 1.29GB

My flatemate had 1GB of RAM installed and it ran slow as.

How does it work?
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6456|Winland

Jaekus wrote:

Wait, you're running Win7 with on Aero and only using 700MB of RAM?

I'm idle and only running Chrome as an application (not too many processes either) and I'm sitting at 1.29GB

My flatemate had 1GB of RAM installed and it ran slow as.

How does it work?
Windows 7 uses otherwise unused RAM for caching stuff. It puts stuff that you "might need" (like if you open an exe file, it stores the exe in RAM even after you've closed the application). That means that the more RAM you have, the more RAM it will use. If you have less RAM, it won't cache as much, and it will behave much like older operating systems like Windows XP.

If it ran slow, it was probably due to his CPU, or something being out of place. I wouldn't run 7 on anything less than a 3GHz Pentium 4 or an Athlon 64 3200+, those are the slowest processors that I've used 7 on without it feeling saggy.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5437|Sydney
Ah ok, yeah his CPU is pretty ancient now, so that must be the culprit. Cheers.
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6673|Finland

Freezer7Pro wrote:

What's that supposed to demonstrate? Windows uses unused RAM for caching, if the point you're making is that you're using more than a gigabyte.
Oh please go ahead and try how "small" improvement there is moving from 1GB to 2GB on 7. 

If you don't use more than 600MB, you wouldn't  see slightest difference moving from 600MB to 12GB... Its not like Windows caches shit for fun.

Whole point of ram is having data on faster than HDD cache.

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2010-04-28 10:44:24)

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SonderKommando
Eat, Lift, Grow, Repeat....
+564|6918|The darkside of Denver
https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/12050/perf.png
just over a gig running 7 enterprise, chrome w/ six tabs (four of them ticket tracking) MS live messenger, Active Directory, Media Player, Outlook 2007, and Command prompt.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6840|SE London

DUnlimited wrote:

Win7 does not really effectively work with 1GB of ram
As has been said already, yes it does.

Runs perfectly smoothly. Obviously having more RAM is better, but it doesn't feel too sluggish with only 1GB. No more than XP.


Of course if you're really worried you could just put 98 SE on....
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6456|Winland

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

What's that supposed to demonstrate? Windows uses unused RAM for caching, if the point you're making is that you're using more than a gigabyte.
Oh please go ahead and try how "small" improvement there is moving from 1GB to 2GB on 7. 

If you don't use more than 600MB, you wouldn't  see slightest difference moving from 600MB to 12GB... Its not like Windows caches shit for fun.

Whole point of ram is having data on faster than HDD cache.
Really, if you aren't gaming or doing anything otherwise resource-heavy on the computer, there's honestly not a lot of difference. I should know, I just changed my "office computer" from one with a somewhat slow processor and 2.5GB RAM to one with a faster processor and 1GB RAM. They both use the same model hard drive, and that's about the only thing that's really affecting the performance; they both boot about as quickly, and using the new one is nothing but a nicer experience due to the faster processor. Not once have I had any slow-downs related to the 1.5GB RAM that's been lost in the move.

I actually have another 512MB stick that I was going to put in it, but I haven't gotten around to it, as the system is running perfectly fine as is.

Last edited by Freezer7Pro (2010-04-28 11:28:14)

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
GR34
Member
+215|6804|ALBERTA> CANADA
He wont be doing much gaming just playing CSS cod 2 and such. I just have a copy of W7 that Iam not using from an OEM 3 pack
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6456|Winland

GR34 wrote:

He wont be doing much gaming just playing CSS cod 2 and such. I just have a copy of W7 that Iam not using from an OEM 3 pack
If his computer's managed them before, they'll run just fine on 7 too.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
lxcpikiman
imbad @ bf2
+70|6854|Toronto-Canada
oh the same topic:
my friends wants to reformat her computer but when i did it i put WinXP and I would like to install win7 but i dont know which version and if her computer can handle it

I'm pretty sure this is her spec:
CPU: intel e5200
RAM: 2 GB
ASrock Mobo:
Integraded Video card:
HDD: 250GB

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