BF2S Forums [Mafia II] Discussion Thread - Spoiler Warning

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Didn't have the mob movie feeling? What do you want it to do? Sit around and talk at a dinner table all day? Level up your ring-kissing attribute? FFS, the thing bleeds story and atmosphere out your monitor and speakers and all over your desk.

It takes a good couple of reasonable nights to finish if you don't just blaze through at 140MPH, so that puts it on level with most other games of its kind.

Stimey wrote:

I'm glad I didn't fork over a cent for that game. Pissed me off right at the end. Especially the part where I couldn't fucking free roam.

So you played it all the way through but don't think paying for it is fair?

to design such an immersive, close-to-detail environment and then not allow sandbox-mode / free-roam is a major fuck up, imo...

Uzique wrote:

to design such an immersive, close-to-detail environment and then not allow sandbox-mode / free-roam is a major fuck up, imo...

Rumor has it that the "Jimmy's Vendetta" DLC will be more free-roam oriented and allow you to start missions at your pleasing.  Also, a "Free roam" mod has been released for PC here.  I personally haven't tried it yet, though.

There is a huge demand for a dedicated free-roam mode and 2K is well aware of it, so I'd expect to see something soon.

Last edited by TopHat01 (2010-08-29 20:56:59)

Chou wrote:

Game will die a horrible death though because no MP, not even a freemode.

.Sup wrote:

Chou wrote:

Chou wrote:

Game will die a horrible death though because no MP, not even a freemode.

Wat no freemode? Wel tbh what's the point of freemode anyway? When you finish the game you can still drive all over the map with any vehicle right?

What's the point of freemode? I've played on gta4 longer after I've completed it than I have doing the story missions twice.

jord wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Chou wrote:

Wat no freemode? Wel tbh what's the point of freemode anyway? When you finish the game you can still drive all over the map with any vehicle right?

What's the point of freemode? I've played on gta4 longer after I've completed it than I have doing the story missions twice.

But compared to GTA freemode in Mafia was shit anyway.

Sisco wrote:

jord wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Wat no freemode? Wel tbh what's the point of freemode anyway? When you finish the game you can still drive all over the map with any vehicle right?

What's the point of freemode? I've played on gta4 longer after I've completed it than I have doing the story missions twice.

But compared to GTA freemode in Mafia was shit anyway.

GTA IV freemode was amazing. I literally have spent over 40 hours over MP Freemode playing with my friends just finding stuff to do.

TBOGT freemode was pretty much perfect.

Gonna trade it in today. Get some credit for it and put it towards Halo: Reach or Dead Rising 2.

Last edited by Poseidon (2010-08-30 07:52:49)

Uzique wrote:

to design such an immersive, close-to-detail environment and then not allow sandbox-mode / free-roam is a major fuck up, imo...

I agree. The first game had free-roam. You can do it in this game too, when it turns you lose to go do shit before driving to the next mission. Still, with DLC coming out for this game, it will probably be implemented as a direct feature. Other devs are essentially doing the same thing with their games.

Poseidon wrote:

I know you're trying really hard to defend it, but please stop.

There was little to no immersion, I barely felt like I was in the 50's (I felt it more in Fallout 3 FFS!), the story was bland and unoriginal, the gameplay was EXTREMELY frustrating (especially with the severe lack of autosaves)...

A 6.5/10 at best for graphics and soundtrack alone.

Goodfellas had an incredible story. Godfather pt. 1 and 2 had amazing stories. And all 3 were original from each other.

This? Nope.

I could just as easily tell you to stop pissing all over it as easily as you're telling me to stop defending it. You're talking like you wanted Francis Ford Coppola to write thie thing, when it's a bloody video game! Fallout 3? Where were the mutants? Where was VATS? Where was the skill system? Christ. The mob genre has been done so many times now that it's just about impossible to be completely original. It did not stop this game from being a decent venture, and I will be getting the DLC.

I do agree with you about the save system, though. Their chapters are ginormous, and it's irritating to start from the beginning of one if you want to replay a particular part.

You might want to update your OP.

[Edit: Hopefully they'll make police a bit more persistent in the DLC. Could be why they delayed free ride mode.]

Chou wrote:

Check this out:

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/08/30/mafia … hter-says/

http://www.facepunch.com/showpost.php?p … count=2094

The original is a cult classic, and I enjoyed this story just as much. Sales aren't surprising, (comparing it to Rockstar? lol) but I still want the DLC.

i dont know why people want story lines to follow.

jord wrote:

Sisco wrote:

jord wrote:

What's the point of freemode? I've played on gta4 longer after I've completed it than I have doing the story missions twice.

But compared to GTA freemode in Mafia was shit anyway.

I couldn't go compare, alls I know is there was a lot more to do on gta sa than gta4

True. Never liked GTAIV myself. But Mafia was never about freeroaming anyways. I mean, you could do it, but there was practically nothing to do except for doing some taxi drving and shooting mobs. It was always strongly focused on the plot, where the giant explorable city gave you the freedom to shose your own route or enough space to outrun the cops (who were dumb fucks and by judging the Demo they are still in NoII).

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Why would I update the OP? It only goes to show how absolutely disappointed I am with this game. I was very excited for it to be one hell of a game (as were most) and it ends up being mediocre at best.

Fallout 3 had a solid story. Mass Effect 1 and 2 both had original, awesome stories. Red Dead Redemption had a BRILLIANT story (although I was disappointed at first) with absolutely incredible immersion. Dead Space had an original story.

It's not hard. Just because a genre has been done a lot doesn't give it an excuse.

Post-apocalypse western, space-westerns and a western-western. Good, but hardly 'original' by the true extent of the definition. I've come out of Mafia with a strong sense of the characters and, more importantly, had a good time playing it. I'd tell people to wait for a STEAM sale, but I'm by no means sad that I forked over cash for the collector's edition.

Same here.  I dont get how everyone is so jaded these days, they hate everything that comes out.  I think the game was good, worth the price of admission.

So, how would you modify the story to make it stunningly original?

SonderKommando wrote:

Make it a tad bit longer

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Also, Joe Barbaro shouldn't have got whacked, or instead you beat the fuck out of leo and the driver and steal the car.. chase down the other vehicle and save joe.  Then you proceed to take out the rest of the family and become the rulers of Empire city after defeating all three families and teh Chinese.

I completely agree, but in todays pc-games industry this will be Mafia III

DesertFox- wrote:

Jesus fucking christ
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Why do they insist on pulling this stupid random bullshit where you lose your money? Fucking damn it, game, I'm saving it to spend it on shit. I doubt Vito had it all in the mattress when the house burned down.

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I admit being irritated at that. You lose it at prison and you lose it during the fire. FFS. Second time lost, I just popped open a trainer and set it to 999K, since I didn't really see a need for the loss feature.