BF3s Book Club

2011-03-19 02:18:37

#826

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|7030|PNW

The Brewer, Toye Smith 2011

Intend to read because the description made me o,0 vigorously. Somali pirate antihero fighting terrorists aboard a captured US cargo ship for love of a blonde hostage in a thriller novel?

2011-03-19 04:43:24

#827

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6364|eXtreme to the maX

Uzique wrote:
this is a book club. don't want to discuss serious books, or discuss books in a serious fashion? why not fuck off

Uzique wrote:
what an absolute postmodern headfuck. batty!

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2011-03-19 06:14:38

#828

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6729

care to say anything more elaborate about what is... just exactly that... a postmodern clusterfuck? it's a total cross-disciplinary mish-mash of all sorts of disparate theories and schools of thought. i think the phrase "postmodern headfuck" is quite appropriate; postmodern texts are known for their notorious (self-aware) difficulty. so... do you have anything better to say? or anything good at all? as per...

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2011-03-19 14:47:44

#829

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6364|eXtreme to the maX

I was wondering if you had anything useful to say, something more descriptive than 'headfuck' or 'batty'.
Still, its better than some of your other reviews, and I don't see whats clever about deliberately making a book 'difficult'.

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2011-03-19 16:25:37

#830

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6729

who says it's deliberately difficult? it's necessarily difficult.

every time you come in here you are so obtuse

i said i WANTED to read it, i.e. a review will come AFTERWARDS. it's a discussion, is it not?

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2011-03-19 20:59:34

#831

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6364|eXtreme to the maX

Why do you pass judgement on books you haven't yet read, or are never going to read?
Seems very obtuse to me.

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2011-03-20 10:36:25

#832

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6729

where's the judgement? a passing comment "what a headfuck!" is hardly a 'judgement'.

never going to read? i just stated my intention to read it.

jesus fucking christ you are so DIFFICULT.

stop being such a child

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2011-03-21 00:03:31

#833

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6364|eXtreme to the maX

You have passed judgement on a number of books you won't be reading.

a passing comment "what a headfuck!" is hardly a 'judgement'

So why post it? This thread is for serious analysis.

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2011-03-21 05:43:21

#834

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6729

clearly, i can tell by your own contributions.

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2011-03-21 13:45:28

#835

DesertFox-: The very model of a modern major general; +796|6943|United States of America

Finished Hamlet as my "read-between-classes" book and definitively enjoy Shakespeare more when I haven't been forced to read it as in high school (though Romeo & Juliet was the only one I loathed). Starting David Copperfield next, and will have to find something new once I've exhaused my book supply after that.

2011-03-21 22:15:27

#836

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6859|132 and Bush

Disappointing.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2011-03-21 22:20:13

#837

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6859|132 and Bush

DesertFox- wrote:
Finished Hamlet as my "read-between-classes" book and definitively enjoy Shakespeare more when I haven't been forced to read it as in high school.

Naturally. Recreational reading is almost always more enjoyable than an assignment, and the pressure of being tested on the material.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2011-03-21 22:55:47

#838

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|7030|PNW

DesertFox- wrote:
...definitively enjoy Shakespeare more when I haven't been forced to read it as in high school

I agree. Classics are marginalized by mandated exposure. I still haven't been able to get over my disdain for Great Expectations, merely because of all the rotten luck in English classes, it was the book I got assigned year after year. Even the convenience of having old notes to use was wearisome.

2011-03-22 05:21:51

#839

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6364|eXtreme to the maX

Great Expectations was bloody terrible, no redeeming features at all.

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2011-03-23 04:12:53

#840

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6669|'Murka

Same can be said of "The Great Gatsby." It's the reason I won't read any more F. Scott Fitzgerald.

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
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2011-03-23 04:51:53

#841

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6364|eXtreme to the maX

I could say it was down to mandated exposure, but then I enjoyed Shakespeare and Oscar Wilde in the same setting so no.

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2011-03-24 07:32:07

#842

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6729

FEOS wrote:
Same can be said of "The Great Gatsby." It's the reason I won't read any more F. Scott Fitzgerald.

tales of the jazz age is incredible

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2011-03-24 19:21:07

#843

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6669|'Murka

Uzique wrote:
FEOS wrote:
Same can be said of "The Great Gatsby." It's the reason I won't read any more F. Scott Fitzgerald.
tales of the jazz age is incredible

If it's written by that twat...I'll pass.

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

2011-03-24 19:21:58

#844

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6669|'Murka

Dilbert_X wrote:
I could say it was down to mandated exposure, but then I enjoyed Shakespeare and Oscar Wilde in the same setting so no.

True. I had to read Jane Eyre and To Kill a Mockingbird in the same setting and enjoyed them both. Hated Gatsby.

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

2011-03-25 05:52:42

#845

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6729

to be honest to say you dislike a classic is fine... i can't stand a large portion of the literary canon, notably 17-18th century prose/novels (the drama is fine, though). to say there is "absolutely nothing redeeming about it", though, is something else. personal taste is personal taste. but as works of art, separate from your opinion/appreciation, of course they have applaudable factors.

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2011-03-25 05:56:03

#846

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6364|eXtreme to the maX

Like what? I found nothing to like about it apart from the flammability.

Oliver Twist wasn't bad, Great Expectations uniformly terrible.

Fuck Israel

2011-03-25 06:23:20

#847

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6729

i just find that sort of absolute denunciation based upon taste a little hard to swallow... even the most qualified art experts in the world will concede good points about the forms of art that they personally detest. to say there's nothing good to find in great expectations is sort of the same mentality as being bored or annoyed by something you don't understand. i'm not saying it's 'too difficult', of course not, but by that i mean that general sort of emotional response to something that doesn't engage you intellectually-- whether it be 'taste', 'difficulty', 'theme', or whatever. i can understand and agree for a lot of dickens being pretty uninspiring... but i realize that it's a result of me not being particularly gripped by the concerns or stylistic expression of the victorian period. they're good books, just not for you or i.

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2011-03-25 21:24:39

#848

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6669|'Murka

I found nothing redeeming about Gatsby. Sorry. I know some people love it. I think I'd rather get a root canal without anesthesia than read it again.

It wasn't too difficult. It wasn't an emotional response. It was just a bad book. Didn't like any part of it from beginning to end. Was almost physically painful to read.

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

2011-03-25 23:01:35

#849

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6364|eXtreme to the maX

Uzique wrote:
i just find that sort of absolute denunciation based upon taste a little hard to swallow...

Irony.

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2011-03-25 23:19:51

#850

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|7030|PNW

Uzique wrote:
to be honest to say you dislike a classic is fine...

Great Expectations is a 'good' book. I just don't like it after all the overexposure (twice was pushing it, but every single year?! UGH), if you know what I mean. It had already bored the crap out of me when I was a kid, even though I was able to sit through reading the three Lord of the Rings books without my eyes crossing.

I wish English teachers in America had something else up their sleeve. The final straw was when I had to read Great Expectations again in college English...though by that point I pretty much had the bloody thing memorized. Imagine my relief whenever something else was assigned, like 'Brave New World,' 'Fahrenheit 451' or the 'Yellow Pages.'

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