Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6860|132 and Bush

Hey John Galt, did you read Atlas Shrugged on your kindle?
lol.. I can't even imagine
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Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5617|London, England
It's really no different. You just have a romantic attachment to books which I got over after I realized how awesome my kindle is. Staring at a screen or a page is still the same function. The package is just different. You like books better, fine. Im already through my fourth set of floor to ceiling bookshelves in a one bedroom apartment so the kindle is a godsend space-wise.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Jay
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+2,006|5617|London, England

Kmar wrote:

Hey John Galt, did you read Atlas Shrugged on your kindle?
lol.. I can't even imagine
Nah. I got the kindle for christmas in december. It saved me about $1000 in text books this summer.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6729
textbooks are very different from proper books, though... they're expensive and for a specific purpose. you're not going to read a textbook after you finish whatever course you're doing. hardcover books, however, are something of a lifetime investment. a 'romantic attachment'? sounds like you have the same thing for your new-fangled gizmo. will it last? i'm skeptical. books seem to have done just fine since the gutenberg. i know which one i'll bet on.
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Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6860|132 and Bush

Jay wrote:

It's really no different. You just have a romantic attachment to books which I got over after I realized how awesome my kindle is. Staring at a screen or a page is still the same function. The package is just different. You like books better, fine. Im already through my fourth set of floor to ceiling bookshelves in a one bedroom apartment so the kindle is a godsend space-wise.
I think you missed the point man. We're simply talking about personal enjoyability, not comprehension.
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Jay
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+2,006|5617|London, England

Kmar wrote:

Jay wrote:

It's really no different. You just have a romantic attachment to books which I got over after I realized how awesome my kindle is. Staring at a screen or a page is still the same function. The package is just different. You like books better, fine. Im already through my fourth set of floor to ceiling bookshelves in a one bedroom apartment so the kindle is a godsend space-wise.
I think you missed the point man. We're simply talking about personal enjoyability, not comprehension.
i didn't miss the point. I enjoy the process of learning far more than the act of reading.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6729
how do you separate them?
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13urnzz
Banned
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i can't wait for you bastards to grow old.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6860|132 and Bush

Jay wrote:

Kmar wrote:

Jay wrote:

It's really no different. You just have a romantic attachment to books which I got over after I realized how awesome my kindle is. Staring at a screen or a page is still the same function. The package is just different. You like books better, fine. Im already through my fourth set of floor to ceiling bookshelves in a one bedroom apartment so the kindle is a godsend space-wise.
I think you missed the point man. We're simply talking about personal enjoyability, not comprehension.
i didn't miss the point. I enjoy the process of learning far more than the act of reading.
As if the how does not contribute to enjoyibilty? For many people it does.
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Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6729

burnzz wrote:

i can't wait for you bastards to grow old.
what's that got to do with reading books and not wanting to be in front of a screen 24 hours a day in every single activity?
libertarian benefit collector - anti-academic super-intellectual. http://mixlr.com/the-little-phrase/
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6860|132 and Bush

burnzz wrote:

i can't wait for you bastards to grow old.
Hey that's another benifit of kindle.. you can increase the font point on the fly.
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13urnzz
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Uzique wrote:

burnzz wrote:

i can't wait for you bastards to grow old.
what's that got to do with reading books and not wanting to be in front of a screen 24 hours a day in every single activity?
if your eyes never change, then nothing. i have a modest collection of hard bound and soft cover books, that i have a hard time reading anymore.

you see, your arms grow shorter as you grow older, and it get's harder to hold a book away from you . . .
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5617|London, England

Kmar wrote:

Jay wrote:

Kmar wrote:


I think you missed the point man. We're simply talking about personal enjoyability, not comprehension.
i didn't miss the point. I enjoy the process of learning far more than the act of reading.
As if the how does not contribute to enjoyibilty? For many people it does.
I'm just indifferent about the medium, that's all. I still buy physical copies of books. It's just easier to tote around and whip out the kindle when I'm not at home.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6729

burnzz wrote:

Uzique wrote:

burnzz wrote:

i can't wait for you bastards to grow old.
what's that got to do with reading books and not wanting to be in front of a screen 24 hours a day in every single activity?
if your eyes never change, then nothing. i have a modest collection of hard bound and soft cover books, that i have a hard time reading anymore.

you see, your arms grow shorter as you grow older, and it get's harder to hold a book away from you . . .
my eyes have changed a lot in the last 5 years. it's called getting a new prescription. and, if you're going blind... i don't see how a kindle will change it.
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Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5617|London, England

Uzique wrote:

burnzz wrote:

Uzique wrote:


what's that got to do with reading books and not wanting to be in front of a screen 24 hours a day in every single activity?
if your eyes never change, then nothing. i have a modest collection of hard bound and soft cover books, that i have a hard time reading anymore.

you see, your arms grow shorter as you grow older, and it get's harder to hold a book away from you . . .
my eyes have changed a lot in the last 5 years. it's called getting a new prescription. and, if you're going blind... i don't see how a kindle will change it.
You can increase the size of the typeface.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6860|132 and Bush

Jay wrote:

Kmar wrote:

Jay wrote:

i didn't miss the point. I enjoy the process of learning far more than the act of reading.
As if the how does not contribute to enjoyibilty? For many people it does.
I'm just indifferent about the medium, that's all. I still buy physical copies of books. It's just easier to tote around and whip out the kindle when I'm not at home.
That's the main reason I got the kindle. For awhile I was getting my daily newspaper delivered on it. I would take it to my open houses to kill time in between showings.
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13urnzz
Banned
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Uzique wrote:

burnzz wrote:

Uzique wrote:


what's that got to do with reading books and not wanting to be in front of a screen 24 hours a day in every single activity?
if your eyes never change, then nothing. i have a modest collection of hard bound and soft cover books, that i have a hard time reading anymore.

you see, your arms grow shorter as you grow older, and it get's harder to hold a book away from you . . .
my eyes have changed a lot in the last 5 years. it's called getting a new prescription. and, if you're going blind... i don't see how a kindle will change it.
not blind, farsighted. i quit wanking when i grew hair on my palms, but this having to hold anything you read farther away is killing me.

hey, if it never happens, good for you.

if it does, you will not have my sympathy. i'll be dead.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6729

Jay wrote:

Uzique wrote:

burnzz wrote:


if your eyes never change, then nothing. i have a modest collection of hard bound and soft cover books, that i have a hard time reading anymore.

you see, your arms grow shorter as you grow older, and it get's harder to hold a book away from you . . .
my eyes have changed a lot in the last 5 years. it's called getting a new prescription. and, if you're going blind... i don't see how a kindle will change it.
You can increase the size of the typeface.
so what's a better solution to eyesight problems? get an eyetest and see everything in life 20/20, or abandon books altogether and get a kindle so you can increase the size of the written word? hmm... a compelling argument. you can also increase the size of a typeface in all of your books... it's this miraculous thing called a magnifying glass. that also worked for scholars and readers in past centuries that had similar problems reaching an opticians.
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unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|7031|PNW

Being able to adjust the typeface scale is a modern convenience not to be scoffed at. A magnifying glass, even a flat one that scoots across the book, can't begin to hold a candle to it. That said, I vastly prefer the feel of an actual book over a Kindle or Nook or anything like that, but can see why people love them in terms of things like cost, convenience, flexibility and portability.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6860|132 and Bush

Uzique wrote:

yeah i definitely wouldn't advise buying a book of that shape or nature on a kindle - i'd hate to read it on a device! plus it's a good one to have on the bookshelf
This is going to take me a long time. Not only because of the size, but because I find myself having to pause to let it soak in.
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unnamednewbie13
Moderator
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When I was younger I had a vague hope that this book would spare me having to read any of the philosophers it discusses. That isn't true at all, fortunately or unfortunately. Russell has very idiosyncratic views of some philosophers, such as Epicurus, who he carelessly misrepresents, and Nietzsche, who he labels (and libels) and dismisses as a proto-Nazi.
Seems damning, but dealing with opinionated writers is nothing new. Still plan to read.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6860|132 and Bush

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

When I was younger I had a vague hope that this book would spare me having to read any of the philosophers it discusses. That isn't true at all, fortunately or unfortunately. Russell has very idiosyncratic views of some philosophers, such as Epicurus, who he carelessly misrepresents, and Nietzsche, who he labels (and libels) and dismisses as a proto-Nazi.
Seems damning, but dealing with opinionated writers is nothing new. Still plan to read.
Make sure you read the whole review. He did give it five stars.
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Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6860|132 and Bush

btw, I am familiar with the some of the history in this book. So topics like the fall of Rome, the attempt to rebuild, Justinian (etc..) are events/people I've already studied. That will be helpful I suppose.
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unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|7031|PNW

Kmar wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

When I was younger I had a vague hope that this book would spare me having to read any of the philosophers it discusses. That isn't true at all, fortunately or unfortunately. Russell has very idiosyncratic views of some philosophers, such as Epicurus, who he carelessly misrepresents, and Nietzsche, who he labels (and libels) and dismisses as a proto-Nazi.
Seems damning, but dealing with opinionated writers is nothing new. Still plan to read.
Make sure you read the whole review. He did give it five stars.
Yeah, I saw the rating up by the summary.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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Uzique wrote:

text you're not going to read a textbook after you finish whatever course you're doing.
If your degree is of any practical use then you probably will
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