Right because my personal budget works just like a countries.11 Bravo wrote:
man i hope you never get laid off in your lifetime with that attitude.Macbeth wrote:
Sure it looks good on paper when you cut 50 billion or something but it doesn't add up to much overall.
Well at least beth is attempting to mount an argument against one of Pauls positions. As opposed to Warman's fuck ron paul comment.
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A gun in your pocket doesn't make you bullet or knife-proof, I don't see the benefit - mostly.Jay wrote:
I really don't understand why people feel that they have to carry a gun around with them all day long. If you're a bodyguard or something and it's part of your daily duties, yeah, but I've just never felt like I've needed a gun outside of combat. Who else but paranoid people would carry? And paranoid people are probably the last people that should be given gun licenses in the first place. They're clearly not in the right state of mind to calmly assess a situation.
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Depends on the circumstance. I turned around once and literally had the barrel of a loaded gun on my forehead. Don't see how carrying would have helped me.
However, there are certain situations in which having a gun may help a person defend themselves. Women in particular.
However, there are certain situations in which having a gun may help a person defend themselves. Women in particular.
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While it would be nice to as Hurri said redefine all marriage licenses as civil unions the religous won't go for that either since it'll be seen an attack on religion and the sanctity of marriage rah rah. I'm just going to drop the whole gay marriage thing. Agree to disagree.
Anyway the smartest thing I've read recently about gun control in the U.S. came from the dumbest place- Huffingtonpost.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mitchell- … 09442.html
I don't agree with wanting to ban high capacity clips but he has a point that the people from different regions need to understand what guns mean to each other before either side tries to pass sweeping gun laws.
I could understand carrying a gun if you live in Nebraska or something far away from police and everything but if you live some place like Tampa I think it's more of a hassle than a means of protection. Whenever I'm in Tampa I don't feel like I need to have a gun to protect myself. Hell even when I'm in Newark, or Jersey City I don't feel afraid enough to need a gun.Jay wrote:
I really don't understand why people feel that they have to carry a gun around with them all day long. If you're a bodyguard or something and it's part of your daily duties, yeah, but I've just never felt like I've needed a gun outside of combat. Who else but paranoid people would carry? And paranoid people are probably the last people that should be given gun licenses in the first place. They're clearly not in the right state of mind to calmly assess a situation.
Thoughts spurred by this: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/06 … staurants/ Ohio lifting restrictions on concealed carry laws and allowing people to go where they were previously banned: places with a liquor license. So now we're going to have drunk, paranoid people with concealed handguns. Fantastic.
Anyway the smartest thing I've read recently about gun control in the U.S. came from the dumbest place- Huffingtonpost.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mitchell- … 09442.html
I don't agree with wanting to ban high capacity clips but he has a point that the people from different regions need to understand what guns mean to each other before either side tries to pass sweeping gun laws.
carrying a gun isnt about being afraid. its about compensation and low self esteem
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Tu Stultus Es
The truth of the matter is, even though certain parts of the US are relatively high compared to other parts of the world, the chances of actually needing a weapon are very low. Home invasion is probably the most likely scenario. Even in my rare situation a gun wouldn't have done anything to protect myself. In fact, it might have made a gun shot to the back of my head more likely.Macbeth wrote:
I could understand carrying a gun if you live in Nebraska or something far away from police and everything but if you live some place like Tampa I think it's more of a hassle than a means of protection. Whenever I'm in Tampa I don't feel like I need to have a gun to protect myself. Hell even when I'm in Newark, or Jersey City I don't feel afraid enough to need a gun.
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Which is why I want one.eleven bravo wrote:
carrying a gun isnt about being afraid. its about compensation and low self esteem
Really, home invasion is the only scenario which is remotely likely and where a gun might be useful.
Otherwise mostly no, but I don't have a problem with a woman carrying one if they want one.
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I say if you want to be a crime fighter, become a copKmar wrote:
The truth of the matter is, even though certain parts of the US are relatively high compared to other parts of the world, the chances of actually needing a weapon are very low. Home invasion is probably the most likely scenario. Even in my rare situation a gun wouldn't have done anything to protect myself. In fact, it might have made a gun shot to the back of my head more likely.Macbeth wrote:
I could understand carrying a gun if you live in Nebraska or something far away from police and everything but if you live some place like Tampa I think it's more of a hassle than a means of protection. Whenever I'm in Tampa I don't feel like I need to have a gun to protect myself. Hell even when I'm in Newark, or Jersey City I don't feel afraid enough to need a gun.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
sighMacbeth wrote:
Right because my personal budget works just like a countries.11 Bravo wrote:
man i hope you never get laid off in your lifetime with that attitude.Macbeth wrote:
Sure it looks good on paper when you cut 50 billion or something but it doesn't add up to much overall.
Can't I just sit in my shack stroking mah guns?Jay wrote:
I say if you want to be a crime fighter, become a cop
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what if the cops commit the crimes! south will rise againDilbert_X wrote:
Can't I just sit in my shack stroking mah guns?Jay wrote:
I say if you want to be a crime fighter, become a cop
I don't have a problem with defending a home, or even carrying concealed... I just don't understand why people would want to carry a heavy ass gun attached to their hip all day long unless they are a bodyguard or something. I don't understand the psychology of it. I don't feel threatened walking down the street. That's not to say that some people don't have very real worries, like abusive ex-boyfriends etc. but the majority of people who proudly proclaim that they carry seem to have "little man disease".Dilbert_X wrote:
Can't I just sit in my shack stroking mah guns?Jay wrote:
I say if you want to be a crime fighter, become a cop
This is one of those cases where I don't want the government telling people they can't carry, I just wish they would figure out on their own that they aren't all John Wayne and no one is going to ask them to join a posse to hunt down a cattle thief.
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"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
I drove the San Antonio Mission Trail today. Kinda wish I'd had a gun with me...Jay wrote:
I don't have a problem with defending a home, or even carrying concealed... I just don't understand why people would want to carry a heavy ass gun attached to their hip all day long unless they are a bodyguard or something. I don't understand the psychology of it. I don't feel threatened walking down the street. That's not to say that some people don't have very real worries, like abusive ex-boyfriends etc. but the majority of people who proudly proclaim that they carry seem to have "little man disease".Dilbert_X wrote:
Can't I just sit in my shack stroking mah guns?Jay wrote:
I say if you want to be a crime fighter, become a cop
This is one of those cases where I don't want the government telling people they can't carry, I just wish they would figure out on their own that they aren't all John Wayne and no one is going to ask them to join a posse to hunt down a cattle thief.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
did you end up getting killed?
Tu Stultus Es
Even for 'self-defence' you don't need a high capacity large calibre auto and multiple high capacity magazines.Jay wrote:
I don't have a problem with defending a home, or even carrying concealed... I just don't understand why people would want to carry a heavy ass gun attached to their hip all day long unless they are a bodyguard or something. I don't understand the psychology of it. I don't feel threatened walking down the street. That's not to say that some people don't have very real worries, like abusive ex-boyfriends etc. but the majority of people who proudly proclaim that they carry seem to have "little man disease".Dilbert_X wrote:
Can't I just sit in my shack stroking mah guns?Jay wrote:
I say if you want to be a crime fighter, become a cop
This is one of those cases where I don't want the government telling people they can't carry, I just wish they would figure out on their own that they aren't all John Wayne and no one is going to ask them to join a posse to hunt down a cattle thief.
Really I think the two parties use issues like guns and abortion to polarise their supporters and distract from the important stuff.
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Yes. By all those brown people.eleven bravo wrote:
did you end up getting killed?
Guess I should've used [sarcasm]tags[/sarcasm] to make it more obvious.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
I rode the Orange Blossom Trail, that was fun.
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Well, for one it's a constitutional right... I lawfully carry every day. I mainly carry a .32 seecamp that would fit in your wallet. 99% of the time it isn't even in the way.Jay wrote:
I really don't understand why people feel that they have to carry a gun around with them all day long. If you're a bodyguard or something and it's part of your daily duties, yeah, but I've just never felt like I've needed a gun outside of combat. Who else but paranoid people would carry? And paranoid people are probably the last people that should be given gun licenses in the first place. They're clearly not in the right state of mind to calmly assess a situation.
Thoughts spurred by this: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/06 … staurants/ Ohio lifting restrictions on concealed carry laws and allowing people to go where they were previously banned: places with a liquor license. So now we're going to have drunk, paranoid people with concealed handguns. Fantastic.
I am not paranoid, insecure or compensating for anything. I'm 6'3 at 240 and can handle myself. I use the motto 'rather have and not need, than need and not have'. I'm not necessarily against open carry, as it would take the hassle out of hiding, but concealment is a better option. Does that mean I'd 'draw down' automatically if someone threatened me? Hell no. How about in Kman's instance. Again, hell no. People seem to carry the mentality that just because one carries a gun they can't wait to use it at any opportunity.
Here are the statistics from Florida's CWP holders. Over 2 million permits issued with only 168 fuck ups.... Math would dictate that they're clearly in their right frame of mind.
I do agree as not allowing people to carry in bar, but a liquor store? Sure, why not? College/School? Sure. Life happens, just ask Suzanna Hupp.
Never Mind... We're on the same page. That's why I carry the lil guy there. I don't want to carry a full size. Honestly if someone wants to assassinate someone they will. Carrying isn't obviously going to stop them.Jay wrote:
I don't have a problem with defending a home, or even carrying concealed... I just don't understand why people would want to carry a heavy ass gun attached to their hip all day long unless they are a bodyguard or something. I don't understand the psychology of it. I don't feel threatened walking down the street. That's not to say that some people don't have very real worries, like abusive ex-boyfriends etc. but the majority of people who proudly proclaim that they carry seem to have "little man disease".
This is one of those cases where I don't want the government telling people they can't carry, I just wish they would figure out on their own that they aren't all John Wayne and no one is going to ask them to join a posse to hunt down a cattle thief.
Side note:
Pleases me.
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I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
im sure [sarcasm]tags[/sarcasm] would have let me know you didnt end up getting killed.FEOS wrote:
Yes. By all those brown people.eleven bravo wrote:
did you end up getting killed?
Guess I should've used [sarcasm]tags[/sarcasm] to make it more obvious.
Tu Stultus Es
i find it funny that brin always carries a gun and has a special $100 thumb-drive to delete all of his online information
it must suck to suffer from paranoia
it must suck to suffer from paranoia
libertarian benefit collector - anti-academic super-intellectual. http://mixlr.com/the-little-phrase/
honestly why do you care what he does as long as it doesnt affect you?
No where near close to paranoia. Sorry, life happens Uzi. I've found it can be a real 'toothache' not to be prepared. I've all ready got shit set up so that if that happened to me, it would have been handled by now.Uzique wrote:
i find it funny that brin always carries a gun and has a special $100 thumb-drive to delete all of his online information
it must suck to suffer from paranoia
Last edited by 13rin (2011-06-20 15:42:12)
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
I've been hoarding these little bastards like crazy. I've got no less than 100 of em. Every time I go to the supermarket I buy a few boxes.
Hopefully this spreads and my effort will have been for naught.
http://nation.foxnews.com/culture/2011/ … t-bulb-ban
Last edited by 13rin (2011-06-20 17:54:36)
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Those use so much energy, but damn if they don't provide the best lighting. I do admit CFLs are getting much better especially in terms of warm-up times, but it's still a pain in the ass to clean up if you break one. Close off the room, open all the windows, let it air out for an hour or two, come back in, pick everything up with duct tape then throw it out, then wipe everything down with water.
Compared to incandescents where you just sweep it in to a dustpan.
Compared to incandescents where you just sweep it in to a dustpan.
