What has been misconstrued? I made no claims about Shakira, I happen to be listening to her at present, that is all.
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shakira last.fm: 1.7 million listenersDilbert_X wrote:
> Wild and outlandish claims about Shakira and her music being the greatest and most unique and influential in the history of South American Pop music, never to be imitated or surpassed - 0
Which I'm sure is a more widely listened genre than south london ambient drone.
aphex twin last.fm: 1.1 million listeners
'latin' music tag (of which shakira is one of the most commonly tagged artists) last.fm: used 150,000 times
(or 'spanish' if you prefer that variation - 90,000 times)
'ambient' music tag (of which aphex twin is one of the most commonly tagged artists) last.fm: used 906,000 times
and you're not "misconstruing" things, you say? "south london ambient drone?" aphex twin is from cornwall. he's also one of the most popular and widely acknowledged electronic artists of the last 20 years. you are purposefully trying to construe that a) he is not influential (which he plainly is); and b) that he is some marginal, uzique-underground-hipster-crap 'south london drone ambient' artist. this is not only you misconstruing things like an idiot, but also you betraying just how blatantly foolish you are, and how little you know about this subject. just quit whilst you're ahead. throw in the towel for once, instead of aggravating the same little wound over and over.
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Not a massive fan of aphex twin, but come on Shakira is fucking shite.
sorry but the melodies in this are just fucking wow. the guy is one of the only producers i can think of who has taken a classical-style reverence for melody/harmony and brought it into the modern age with electronic equipment. 100 years ago this guy still would have been an acclaimed composer. he is just so good at writing a musically-sound track, even before all the electronic sampling and synthesis comes in.
shakira has never done anything as creative as that in her life.
shakira has never done anything as creative as that in her life.
lol Uzique just admit your taste in music sucks. I'd rather listen to rich Latin music from Shakira than the ambient drone crap that comes out of Aphex Twin's studio.
roc black people can't troll. didn't you get the memo. it's like a white person trying to dance. stop it.
Implying I'm trying to troll
Id say Shakira has been more influential than Aphex Twin. just because his drone crap has been around for decades doesn't mean it's good. You've tricked yourself into thinking its good since its "different and unique", typical unwarranted self importance.
Id say Shakira has been more influential than Aphex Twin. just because his drone crap has been around for decades doesn't mean it's good. You've tricked yourself into thinking its good since its "different and unique", typical unwarranted self importance.
notch up 2 people who know nothing about music trying to tell me that i'm "self-important" because, shock! horror!, i have knowledge of music outside of the shit you get spoofed to you via stadium tours. roc you are either trolling, or one dumb motherfucker. "drone" crap? he's only done one album of drone-like material. try again.
Name one thing Aphex Twin has done to influence the electronic music genre as immensely as you claim. Aphex Twin is overrated, I respect him as an artist but dickriders like you piss me off. He's not that great.
Electronic music bores the fuck out of me.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
how am i a dick-rider? aphex twin pretty much pioneered the 'warp' sound that characterized everything in the mid 90's and early 00's. but do you know much about the history of electronic music? how the genres developed? the hardcore continuum? no, i don't think so. so why am i going to type 3 paragraphs of justification to a guy that gleaned his knowledge about aphex twin from youtube comments? go read a fucking book.Roc18 wrote:
Name one thing Aphex Twin has done to influence the electronic music genre as immensely as you claim. Aphex Twin is overrated, I respect him as an artist but dickriders like you piss me off. He's not that great.
and jay that's nice and all, but many people are bored by 3-chord drunken irish pub rock, too. doesn't stop you posting 4 tracks a day because of their lyrical-teen-angst 'relevance' to you.
I think if Aphex Twin read this thread he'd call you a dick rider for over hyping his music like it was the second coming of Ludwig Van Beethoven. Enjoy your one dimentional drone shit while I listen to electronic artists who actually put meaning ful layers and sounds into their production. I could produce an Aphex Twin track right now, that's how one dimensional his stuff is.
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great to work to, have a bite http://somafm.com/groovesalad/Jay wrote:
Electronic music bores the fuck out of me.
Reminds me of Skrillex hating.Roc18 wrote:
I could produce an Aphex Twin track right now, that's how one dimensional his stuff is.
There was a period in my life where I liked Industrial a lot, and I can listen to it in the background and be fine, but I never got into Drum & Bass or Jungle or Trance or any of that stuff. I need lyrics and music that isn't just samples of other peoples work
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
trolling.Roc18 wrote:
I think if Aphex Twin read this thread he'd call you a dick rider for over hyping his music like it was the second coming of Ludwig Van Beethoven. Enjoy your one dimentional drone shit while I listen to electronic artists who actually put meaning ful layers and sounds into their production. I could produce an Aphex Twin track right now, that's how one dimensional his stuff is.
also great coming from someone who thinks emancipator is great. three albums of generic chillout hip-hop beats! omg!
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well that's great, considering most electronic music isn't made of samples of other people's work.Jay wrote:
There was a period in my life where I liked Industrial a lot, and I can listen to it in the background and be fine, but I never got into Drum & Bass or Jungle or Trance or any of that stuff. I need lyrics and music that isn't just samples of other peoples work
not that the technique of sampling somehow illegitimates the music and makes it 'lesser'. sampling is a core part of hip-hop's aesthetic, and nobody is saying j dilla lacks talent, because he didn't hit every snare rim-shot and hi-hat himself.
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Generic chillout hip hop beats > Nauseous Drone. But if you want to keep deflecting the argument away from the point by claiming trolling go ahead mr. High and mightyUzique The Lesser wrote:
trolling.Roc18 wrote:
I think if Aphex Twin read this thread he'd call you a dick rider for over hyping his music like it was the second coming of Ludwig Van Beethoven. Enjoy your one dimentional drone shit while I listen to electronic artists who actually put meaning ful layers and sounds into their production. I could produce an Aphex Twin track right now, that's how one dimensional his stuff is.
also great coming from someone who thinks emancipator is great. three albums of generic chillout hip-hop beats! omg!
what exactly is 'nauseous drone'? one album out of a dozen? 20 years old? that sure defines two decades of musical output!
urgh, so nauseating!
dat drone
i could produce that right now
urgh, so nauseating!
dat drone
i could produce that right now
I like the music that I like, and I don't like the music you like, therefore your music is shit as a genre, and mine is
-Whiteroom- wrote:
I like the music that I like, and I don't like the music you like, therefore your music is shit as a genre, and mine is
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
except i never said anyone's music is shit. just rightfully explaining to some musically illiterate people why aphex twin is recognized as a 'canonical' producer in electronic music. people who clearly have no knowledge of recent electronic music for some reason challenging my statement about a classic album (widely acknowledged) being a classic album. well done.
also jay you aren't acknowledging that most electronic music isn't sampled. which your (supposed) 'wise-crack' wrongly inferred. another person ready to criticize with no knowledge? isn't bf2s a little beacon of intellectual rigour.
also jay you aren't acknowledging that most electronic music isn't sampled. which your (supposed) 'wise-crack' wrongly inferred. another person ready to criticize with no knowledge? isn't bf2s a little beacon of intellectual rigour.
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Yeah you kind of did uzi. You always do. You're kind of a dick like that, but hey, that's your bag baby.Uzique The Lesser wrote:
and jay that's nice and all, but many people are bored by 3-chord drunken irish pub rock, too. doesn't stop you posting 4 tracks a day because of their lyrical-teen-angst 'relevance' to you.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Wow great music you just posted Uzique, you just enlightened me with the best electronic production known to man. Thank you based god.