richard rorty, one of america's best 20th century philosophers, basically boiled down his thought to "a lot of third world countries should be a lot more like america... and america should aim to be a lot more like scandinavia". what an idiot.Jay wrote:
The only white Americans that fantasize about living in Europe are ultra liberal idiots that think living in a socialist society is superior. It's romanticism.Macbeth wrote:
I don't think so. We consume a lot of each other's media. Half of the ultra right wing links on drudge report are from U.K. papers for instance. Of course Americans are going to borrow terms. I just wish the relationship we have with Europe wasn't so lopsided. Most white Americans fantasize about living in Europe and think they are really posh. Most Europeans hate is.Jay wrote:
It's mostly people trying to sound sophisticated by adopting a foreign turn of phrase. It's lame.
I believe he meant 'hate us' meaning most Europeans would rather sit in dog poo then live in America.Uzique The Lesser wrote:
most europeans hate what? living in europe? are you tripping? you haven't even left the states.Macbeth wrote:
I don't think so. We consume a lot of each other's media. Half of the ultra right wing links on drudge report are from U.K. papers for instance. Of course Americans are going to borrow terms. I just wish the relationship we have with Europe wasn't so lopsided. Most white Americans fantasize about living in Europe and think they are really posh. Most Europeans hate is.Jay wrote:
It's mostly people trying to sound sophisticated by adopting a foreign turn of phrase. It's lame.
He meant to say "us".Uzique The Lesser wrote:
most europeans hate what? living in europe? are you tripping? you haven't even left the states.Macbeth wrote:
I don't think so. We consume a lot of each other's media. Half of the ultra right wing links on drudge report are from U.K. papers for instance. Of course Americans are going to borrow terms. I just wish the relationship we have with Europe wasn't so lopsided. Most white Americans fantasize about living in Europe and think they are really posh. Most Europeans hate is.Jay wrote:
It's mostly people trying to sound sophisticated by adopting a foreign turn of phrase. It's lame.
My phone auto corrected us to is. This Fucking guy.Uzique The Lesser wrote:
most europeans hate what? living in europe? are you tripping? you haven't even left the states.Macbeth wrote:
I don't think so. We consume a lot of each other's media. Half of the ultra right wing links on drudge report are from U.K. papers for instance. Of course Americans are going to borrow terms. I just wish the relationship we have with Europe wasn't so lopsided. Most white Americans fantasize about living in Europe and think they are really posh. Most Europeans hate is.Jay wrote:
It's mostly people trying to sound sophisticated by adopting a foreign turn of phrase. It's lame.
I have met boatloads of blue color Irish who want to live in "the old country". Italians are the same way. Never met a Pole who wanted to go back though.Jay wrote:
The only white Americans that fantasize about living in Europe are ultra liberal idiots that think living in a socialist society is superior. It's romanticism.Macbeth wrote:
I don't think so. We consume a lot of each other's media. Half of the ultra right wing links on drudge report are from U.K. papers for instance. Of course Americans are going to borrow terms. I just wish the relationship we have with Europe wasn't so lopsided. Most white Americans fantasize about living in Europe and think they are really posh. Most Europeans hate is.Jay wrote:
It's mostly people trying to sound sophisticated by adopting a foreign turn of phrase. It's lame.
Italian-Americans are a joke. They'll cheer on Italy in soccer and wear Fubu and rave about italian food, but Italians see them as American. They have no real connection and wouldn't feel comfortable living there.
I've never heard an Irish person say they want to move to Ireland. Visit, yes. Live, no.
I've never heard an Irish person say they want to move to Ireland. Visit, yes. Live, no.
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"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
lol i thought you were trying to say "it". most europeans "hate it". lol.Macbeth wrote:
My phone auto corrected us to is. This Fucking guy.Uzique The Lesser wrote:
most europeans hate what? living in europe? are you tripping? you haven't even left the states.Macbeth wrote:
I don't think so. We consume a lot of each other's media. Half of the ultra right wing links on drudge report are from U.K. papers for instance. Of course Americans are going to borrow terms. I just wish the relationship we have with Europe wasn't so lopsided. Most white Americans fantasize about living in Europe and think they are really posh. Most Europeans hate is.
kind of the way swedish people would think of you when you start talking about your bloody roots again.Jay wrote:
Italian-Americans are a joke. They'll cheer on Italy in soccer and wear Fubu and rave about italian food, but Italians see them as American. They have no real connection and wouldn't feel comfortable living there.
I've never heard an Irish person say they want to move to Ireland. Visit, yes. Live, no.
and no shit, most people wouldn't ever feel comfortable settling in another country permanently. doesn't really have much to do with anything, identity- or pride-wise.. if you're born in one place, all your family, friends, work, life etc. is there. just because you have an ancestor from another land, doesn't mean you're gonna want to live there. even if you do love the place as your 'home-land'. a lot of things tie people to place other than patriotism. more practical, mundane things.
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Who the fuck still wears FUBU?Jay wrote:
Italian-Americans are a joke. They'll cheer on Italy in soccer and wear Fubu and rave about italian food, but Italians see them as American. They have no real connection and wouldn't feel comfortable living there.
I've never heard an Irish person say they want to move to Ireland. Visit, yes. Live, no.
Sure, but I don't claim to be anything but American. I'm not Swedish-American or German-American, I'm an American. I just have ancestors that emigrated from those countries.Uzique The Lesser wrote:
kind of the way swedish people would think of you when you start talking about your bloody roots again.Jay wrote:
Italian-Americans are a joke. They'll cheer on Italy in soccer and wear Fubu and rave about italian food, but Italians see them as American. They have no real connection and wouldn't feel comfortable living there.
I've never heard an Irish person say they want to move to Ireland. Visit, yes. Live, no.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
guidosMacbeth wrote:
Who the fuck still wears FUBU?Jay wrote:
Italian-Americans are a joke. They'll cheer on Italy in soccer and wear Fubu and rave about italian food, but Italians see them as American. They have no real connection and wouldn't feel comfortable living there.
I've never heard an Irish person say they want to move to Ireland. Visit, yes. Live, no.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
i am really glad to be english. to be born english is to win first prize in the lottery of life.
Not even black people wear that shit so I think you are mire than a decade behind on fashion trends
FUBU to me says wu tang circa early staten island shit
and ali g circa early 2000's
and ali g circa early 2000's
lol guidos wear FUBU in 2013? I thought they wore tight gay Armani exchange shirts and fist pumped to house/techno music.Jay wrote:
Italian-Americans are a joke. They'll cheer on Italy in soccer and wear Fubu and rave about italian food, but Italians see them as American. They have no real connection and wouldn't feel comfortable living there.
I've never heard an Irish person say they want to move to Ireland. Visit, yes. Live, no.
guidos most definitely do not listen to techno music. jersey shore type stuff is probably 'dance', 'pop', or 'booty bass'.
Just saw my advisor. I wanted to take a Spanish class so I could finally learn the language. But I can't take a beginner class since I did two years in high school. I can't take an intermediate class because I didn't learn shit those two years in high school. I am too dumb for a higher level class and technically over educated for a lower one.
What language should I try to learn? No one uses Italian, French, or Portuguese around here.
What language should I try to learn? No one uses Italian, French, or Portuguese around here.
Your school doesn't have placement tests? Even if not, our school will allow you to switch levels if you bomb or over-perform on the first test for the class.Macbeth wrote:
Just saw my advisor. I wanted to take a Spanish class so I could finally learn the language. But I can't take a beginner class since I did two years in high school. I can't take an intermediate class because I didn't learn shit those two years in high school. I am too dumb for a higher level class and technically over educated for a lower one.
What language should I try to learn? No one uses Italian, French, or Portuguese around here.
Either way, French or German would get my vote if you can't work something out with the registrar.
The shape of an eye in front of the ocean, digging for stones and throwing them against its window pane. Take it down dreamer, take it down deep. - Other Families
french, german, italian are ridiculously useful if you want to study 'humanities' or intellectual-academic subjects. mostly because of a preponderance of material and thought coming out of those languages (the 'continental tradition'). spanish is useful too, i guess, if you want a more everyday-applicable language in america. greek and latin are always fun, if you want to get super serious and scholarly.Macbeth wrote:
Just saw my advisor. I wanted to take a Spanish class so I could finally learn the language. But I can't take a beginner class since I did two years in high school. I can't take an intermediate class because I didn't learn shit those two years in high school. I am too dumb for a higher level class and technically over educated for a lower one.
What language should I try to learn? No one uses Italian, French, or Portuguese around here.
other than that, what else is there? for employment and 'future' prospects learning an asian language could be good. doubt you'd ever get to grips with it / the culture well enough though to make it a college-level thing.
Go for Italian if purely for the purpose of knowing how to say things in a fancy Italian restaurant. My last semester I wanted to do an introductory French class because I had free credit hours available, but alas the 101 was only offered in Fall. Same with Latin, the bastards.
Latin was pretty fun. Got to read the aeneid all day
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Asian languages are hardcore.Uzique The Lesser wrote:
french, german, italian are ridiculously useful if you want to study 'humanities' or intellectual-academic subjects. mostly because of a preponderance of material and thought coming out of those languages (the 'continental tradition'). spanish is useful too, i guess, if you want a more everyday-applicable language in america. greek and latin are always fun, if you want to get super serious and scholarly.Macbeth wrote:
Just saw my advisor. I wanted to take a Spanish class so I could finally learn the language. But I can't take a beginner class since I did two years in high school. I can't take an intermediate class because I didn't learn shit those two years in high school. I am too dumb for a higher level class and technically over educated for a lower one.
What language should I try to learn? No one uses Italian, French, or Portuguese around here.
other than that, what else is there? for employment and 'future' prospects learning an asian language could be good. doubt you'd ever get to grips with it / the culture well enough though to make it a college-level thing.
yeah that lion is a badass eating 10 rocks innit
just sounds like a bunch of gertrude stein to me.
thats how the chinese keep their best kept secrets away from the gwailosUzique The Lesser wrote:
just sounds like a bunch of gertrude stein to me.
Such a harsh language. Sounds heavenly under the right circumstances.