You just don't understand that all the health professionals who say that eating too much red meat is unhealthy are just soulless puppets of the vast left-wing conspiracy to deprive you of guns, beer, and steak and to elect Barack Obama for a third term.Spark wrote:
extra medium in reading comprehension difficulties shocker
retarded at best? funny. i've seen a lot of scholarship and research articles about industrial waste from the poultry/meat industry. has an 'agenda'? the agenda is that we have an approaching population-pyramid/resources crisis, and we need to learn to stop consuming as if there is no tomorrow. not sure that point really comes with any political 'agenda'.Extra Medium wrote:
I regard the posts as attacks because that's what they are. The anti-meat argument has a clear agenda and it is one of animal rights activists and vegans and has little basis in fact. This agenda is disguised in the argument that less meat is "good for you", "healthier" and more "eco-friendly". These ideas and arguments are at best retarded.Uzique The Lesser wrote:
people aren't arguing against red meat on grounds of bad health, though. nobody in this thread brought up red meat because of its effects on your colon. people said we should eat less red meat - in a thread on animal rights - because it would alleviate pressure on the meat industry. i said people should probably eat less red meat because the suppliers of red meat are a huge source of industrial waste, pollution, environmental ruination, and not to mention animal misery. beyond that, more generally (and more importantly), it was just an example of how we should consume less. i refer you again to the troubling statistic about an american family consuming more than about 8 families in the developing world.
for someone who hedges every single post with some form of attack about how inept your interlocutor(s) are, you sure lack self-reflexivity.
I could elaborate if you wish, but I'm not going to type an essay for someone who doesn't give a shit.
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You can't beat my meat!Adams_BJ wrote:
Meet is good.
I don't have an issue with reductio ad absurdums, whatever the shit that is, I have a problem with people acting like fools and placing emphasis and thought into completely ridiculous things. You people watched to many Disney cartoons as children.Uzique The Lesser wrote:
you have serious problems with reductio ad absurdums'. i don't think he's saying breeding animals for food is unethical (well, at least i sincerely hope he isn't). i think he's talking about breeding qua 'the meat industry', as in something that operates at such a scale to suit such a huge (over) demand and over-consumption. that leads to unethical practices, simply because of the rapacity and poor regulation of the industry.
you watch and read too much liveleak, redneck.Extra Medium wrote:
I don't have an issue with reductio ad absurdums, whatever the shit that is, I have a problem with people acting like fools and placing emphasis and thought into completely ridiculous things. You people watched to many Disney cartoons as children.Uzique The Lesser wrote:
you have serious problems with reductio ad absurdums'. i don't think he's saying breeding animals for food is unethical (well, at least i sincerely hope he isn't). i think he's talking about breeding qua 'the meat industry', as in something that operates at such a scale to suit such a huge (over) demand and over-consumption. that leads to unethical practices, simply because of the rapacity and poor regulation of the industry.
Didn't say that.Extra Medium wrote:
Sigh. Animal ethics.
Please explain how breeding animals for food is unethical.
Should read: "I don't think it is ethical for fat people to be able to buy more meat than they need.", otherwise you ARE saying it is unethical to breed animals for food period.Dilbert wrote:
I don't think its ethical to be breeding and slaughtering animals so dumbfucks can consume 8 times more calories than they need to
because the meat industry is one of the primary causes of industrial waste, serious chemical pollution, and environmental destruction.Extra Medium wrote:
Eating to much ANYTHING is bad. Why single out meat?
Because you don't generally hear a lot about the broccoli-overeating epidemic in the US or how people have too much water in their diets. People eating way more meat than they should is a real problem on multiple fronts, previously described.Eating too much ANYTHING is bad. Why single out meat?
Animals are servants to man.
Man should respect their servitude.
However, animal rights activist can suck my dick.
i think you need to read a fucking book. the meat industry - especially in america - is responsible for huge amounts of pollution and industry concern. there are literally hundreds of studies on this point. there is even an 'industrial pollution handbook' for the industry that has a whole section on meat and poultry pollution.Jay wrote:
The arguments you are all making would be a lot more relevant if the people you were preaching to weren't American. We have so much arable land, and food production has become so efficient, that we've had way more former farmland go out of use and revert to forest in the past sixty years than we've put into use. We aren't hurting the environment by eating meat, we're just taking advantage of the natural resource we were blessed with. We have shit for mineral resources but plenty of farmland and water access. The only problem going forward is the ethanol production that is heavily subsidized by our government and is coming into direct competition with food production. We can't grow enough food on this planet to even come close to meeting our energy needs and the entire process is a misguided use of resources for negative gain. Stupid.
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Does the UK run a massive surplus every year on farm goods? No, of course not, that's one of the primary talking points of the BNP. Most of Australia is desert completely unsuited for sheep herding, but they do it anyway. The Ukraine is probably the only real comparable country to our farm output per capita.Uzique The Lesser wrote:
i think you need to read a fucking book. the meat industry - especially in america - is responsible for huge amounts of pollution and industry concern. there are literally hundreds of studies on this point. there is even an 'industrial pollution handbook' for the industry that has a whole section on meat and poultry pollution.Jay wrote:
The arguments you are all making would be a lot more relevant if the people you were preaching to weren't American. We have so much arable land, and food production has become so efficient, that we've had way more former farmland go out of use and revert to forest in the past sixty years than we've put into use. We aren't hurting the environment by eating meat, we're just taking advantage of the natural resource we were blessed with. We have shit for mineral resources but plenty of farmland and water access. The only problem going forward is the ethanol production that is heavily subsidized by our government and is coming into direct competition with food production. We can't grow enough food on this planet to even come close to meeting our energy needs and the entire process is a misguided use of resources for negative gain. Stupid.
also lol at the fucking naivety of thinking america is the only place with arable land, or a rich heritage/market for livestock. you fucking donk. not like the UK, australia, or loads of europe aren't famous for their meat and animal products. nope. only AMERICA is "blessed". jesus christ.
you're right that the problem is we're "preaching to americans". but not because you are exempt, or special. it's because you're clueless.
