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2006-07-03 11:31:26
specialistx2324
hahahahahhaa
+244|7277|arica harbour
As an avid spec ops player, most of the time i feel that this class does not get the credit it deserves.

The one class that gets the most credit is medics, then support, then assault, and the bottom three are antitank, sniper and spec ops.

Everyone takes the direct approach to playing the game, spec ops take the indirect approach relying on covert tactics and stealth. Everyone has more firepower than the spec ops and i feel people are spitting on this class more and more. Anyone knows that in a battle, 30-50% of the people are medics and support The sad part is having a crapload of medics and support players, and still loosing the battle. We blow up commander assets of the other opposing team and seldomly we dont get any praise at all.

An assault, support or even a medic can take out 3-5 badguys without being killed. A spec ops can do this only if theycan get the jump on the badguys.

After a round, how many times you see a spec ops getting a gold medal assuming he is not vehicle whoring. the answer is very few. An assault kit has it easier than spec ops. Most of the gold medals go to the support and medics. Yeah,, a medic get unlimited health while a support gets unlimited ammo. Assault people noob tube all day long.

In my opinion, there are too many run and gun spec ops players there. very few peoplle use C4 properly.No one sneaks in a base, place two charges in the bottom of a tank, hide and wait until someone takes the tank out for a spin and detonates the c4. And very few people are willing to take out UAV's, radar and the most famous of all-----artillery

I know people have this mentality of " OH yeah, my assault rifle is bigger than your piss ass carbine, yeah your about to get owned by the bigger gun."

One possibility is that people think that spec ops are a bunch of " arrogant , lone wolfers, who farm for points and dont help out" if they can be used as a cohesive unit, then they become more powerful.

Everyone is flag hopping and running around the map shooting up the place, and we have to be the ones to defend the flag and take the captured ones.

I hope this thread will awaken others that spec ops are not a weak usless bunch of morons with c4 in their backpacks.
2006-07-03 11:42:57
Wasder
Resident Emo Hater
+139|7263|Moscow, Russia
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that G36C was one of the best guns in the game.
Also, it's not about classes, it's about people who play them. Some prefer to spawnrape, some prefer to whore vehicles and others prefer to help the team, in this case by blowing armor and assets as SpecOp.
2006-07-03 11:45:29
Boots
Member
+17|7128|PA
I dont really care for the class... no armor and sh1tty guns (Minus the g36c and the SAS g36-type)

c4 comes in handy, but I'd rather to AT for taking down tanks.

Asset destruction and the accuracy of the g36c are the only things this class has to offer, IMO.

Last edited by Boots (2006-07-03 11:46:44)

2006-07-03 11:46:36
InviSniper
The first true Sniper.
+95|7232|Cumberland, MD, USA
C4 is good shit, but no one has the patience to plant it and wait. They'd rather use Claymores; set 'em and forget 'em.

C4 is my primary Anti-Tank weapon. Since I play on Karkand there's plenty of alleys I can hide in and get a good jump on the back of a tank. In my opnion, that's the best way to use C4 besides blowing Commander assets. A Commander is useless without his assets, so blow them early and he'll drop Supplies only for you to get more C4 from!

BTW, I think it's a little weird that the system doesn't keep track of blowing Commander assets, or does it and I'm just blind?
2006-07-03 11:47:47
Kaosdad
Whisky Tango Foxtrot?
+201|7267|Broadlands, VA
With proper commander support, SPec Ops can blind the enemy by destroying UAV, Radar & knifing the commander.  Unfortunatly, few commanders can appreciate this.  Send a MEC commander to the USMC command post, drop him a crate or two and watch the USMC go nuts.

I'm a pretty bad player, but one time I harassed teh USMC commander so much he killed himself with arty to get me (one of the proudest Purple Heart moments of my career!).

The SpcOps base carbine has been one of the most accurate weapons for me so far, second only to the Medic 1st unlock.

Oh - how much more fun would it be if we had timers on the C4!

Last edited by Kaosdad008 (2006-07-03 11:48:52)

2006-07-03 12:12:30
Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|7215|Warlord
Fact.

Let's assume you get one or two guys who can consistently keep the enemy commander's toys down; other things being equal you're gonna win.
2006-07-03 12:15:10
Chillin&killin
Member
+27|7263|Manchester,England
id say they are more important than people think but are not a great front line class( i know there not used for it but thats how alot of people use them)
2006-07-03 12:16:39
Mr.Casual
p-n*|3eergogglz
+136|7097|Minnesota eh
The spec ops players dont get enough respect for there job in talking out the eyes of the enemy commander. Plus the spec ops can ride with c4 on the atv and take out tanks, without dying if they have some skill. +1 to spec op players wh odo there job.
2006-07-03 12:18:13
Simon
basically
+838|7246|UK
FICTION. Check my stats, Im a SpecOps player who doesnt run and gun, i played SpecOps when i was new to the game and i got very good at it.

IMO is Fiction, you just need to know how to use The Kit properly..

Last edited by simon (2006-07-03 12:18:42)

2006-07-03 12:20:05
Kaosdad
Whisky Tango Foxtrot?
+201|7267|Broadlands, VA
simon - agree to a point.  If you do not have a supportive commander (or a dumb enemy commander) you're just a guy with a gun.
2006-07-03 12:22:08
cablecopulate
Member
+449|7326|Massachusetts.
I think Spec ops is a great class. One man can hold the Karkand Gatehouse if he's USMC if the rest of his team can go head to head with MEC. You know their commander is going to drop supplies, so you don't need to waste a supply drop of your own. Get two spec ops guys and one can lay c4 traps while the other keeps destroying assets. The guns are accurate, the C4 is the most lethal infantry weapon (arguably). Maybe not in all situations, but you can C4 a tank before you can keep reloading an AT shot. C4 is better than an AT mine because with mines you gotta lay them across the road to guarantee someone will run over it. With C4, you can just lay two next to each other off to the side and the blast will take out anything.
2006-07-03 12:24:11
PspRpg-7
-
+961|7286

Give me an M4 and I can kick some ass.
2006-07-03 12:25:23
Simon
basically
+838|7246|UK
@ Kaosdad.. Spec ops c4 is not only for Taking out Assets, its for EVERYTHING, Camping, Taking out vehicles, takiing out infantry, Covering flags, Booby Traps Etc, you get the point right?
2006-07-03 12:25:38
Mr.Casual
p-n*|3eergogglz
+136|7097|Minnesota eh
m4 ftw
2006-07-03 12:55:43
Ben>You
Member
+90|7114

specialistx2324 wrote:

As an avid spec ops player, most of the time i feel that this class does not get the credit it deserves.

The one class that gets the most credit is medics, then support, then assault, and the bottom three are antitank, sniper and spec ops.

Everyone takes the direct approach to playing the game, spec ops take the indirect approach relying on covert tactics and stealth. Everyone has more firepower than the spec ops and i feel people are spitting on this class more and more. Anyone knows that in a battle, 30-50% of the people are medics and support The sad part is having a crapload of medics and support players, and still loosing the battle. We blow up commander assets of the other opposing team and seldomly we dont get any praise at all.

An assault, support or even a medic can take out 3-5 badguys without being killed. A spec ops can do this only if theycan get the jump on the badguys.

After a round, how many times you see a spec ops getting a gold medal assuming he is not vehicle whoring. the answer is very few. An assault kit has it easier than spec ops. Most of the gold medals go to the support and medics. Yeah,, a medic get unlimited health while a support gets unlimited ammo. Assault people noob tube all day long.

In my opinion, there are too many run and gun spec ops players there. very few peoplle use C4 properly.No one sneaks in a base, place two charges in the bottom of a tank, hide and wait until someone takes the tank out for a spin and detonates the c4. And very few people are willing to take out UAV's, radar and the most famous of all-----artillery

I know people have this mentality of " OH yeah, my assault rifle is bigger than your piss ass carbine, yeah your about to get owned by the bigger gun."

One possibility is that people think that spec ops are a bunch of " arrogant , lone wolfers, who farm for points and dont help out" if they can be used as a cohesive unit, then they become more powerful.

Everyone is flag hopping and running around the map shooting up the place, and we have to be the ones to defend the flag and take the captured ones.

I hope this thread will awaken others that spec ops are not a weak usless bunch of morons with c4 in their backpacks.
at your first point, i give almost no credit to support players. ever. most are just noobs who like to spray and pray, that dont even hand out ammunition. Also, I'll take an anti-tanker in my squad over an assault any day.  what if a tank rounds the bend? you're fucked unless u got an AT. I don't mind those Spec Ops that can throw C4 like no tomoro, props to them. but for those Spec ops players that are sitting here reading this post like "Wtf h4x j00 c4n't tro t3hz cfourz wfT bbqzz", pick another kit. Spec Ops isnt for you when you cant figure out how to enact the best tactic the kit has.

Spec ops players dont have to take an inderect appraoch. in fact, most of the time, if they wander ALL the way off to the side trying to get to the commander, they'll be the ones picked off first.

Who says Spec Ops are arrogant lone wolfers?

I never see spec ops defending flags. Unless you count laying C4, going halfway across the map fighting, then as soon as it goes neutral u blow the C4 defending.
2006-07-03 13:06:41
Aerick
Member
+2|7137|Bay Area
Fiction:  Spec Ops one of the best infantry classes in the game.  The carbines are precise at all distances with ample firepower to boot.  You have access to C4, arguably the most versatile weapon in the game; lay traps, engage vehicles, destroy assets, or even offensively against close range infantry.  This is the only that class that is effective in any ground engagement. 
So what's not to love?

Oh yea, did I mention Marines get sunglasses?
2006-07-03 13:14:12
PRiMACORD
Member
+190|7213|Home of the Escalade Herds
I love spec ops, m4, c4 and speed, what more do you need
2006-07-03 13:22:43
Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|7215|Warlord

simon wrote:

FICTION. Check my stats, Im a SpecOps player who doesnt run and gun, i played SpecOps when i was new to the game and i got very good at it.

IMO is Fiction, you just need to know how to use The Kit properly..

Aerick wrote:

Fiction:  Spec Ops one of the best infantry classes in the game.  The carbines are precise at all distances with ample firepower to boot.  You have access to C4, arguably the most versatile weapon in the game; lay traps, engage vehicles, destroy assets, or even offensively against close range infantry.  This is the only that class that is effective in any ground engagement. 
So what's not to love?
Guys, the question was whether it was underappreciated... not whether it's good/worthwhile.
2006-07-03 13:25:49
-r3-anubis
Member
+73|7125|florida
Spec Ops is my worst kit, and i hate the all the spec op guns. People spray like crazy with those.
2006-07-03 13:35:29
Snake
Missing, Presumed Dead
+1,046|7154|England

For me, Spec Ops is only underated, because when I joined the game, a friend of mine who has been playing since last July said that mostly noobs play as the class. And in my experience, that is correct in about 75% of cases.
I enjoy playing spec ops, but only when required. If we have their main base flag, then ill happily switch to it to destroy their assets, of if I cant get a tank on a big tank map and do a few jihad runs. But its not fulfilling to do that for an entire round.

At the end of the day, I really dont have the patience to plant some C4 on a tank and sit in a bush and wait for a guy to come and use it. Whats the point, because a commanders scan or UAV will pick you up, and some1 will sneak up and kill you.
Also, why waste a perfectly good tank with C4 to kill 1 enemy, when you can take it yourself and put it to better use on your own team?

Spec Ops are useful, but why take the chance of C4 in the middle of the road and wait for a tank to come along, when you can just leave an AT mine and go elsewhere - which will also detonate if you die?

They are greatly under-rated imo, because they are only of use if you can get to the enemy assets. And considering a Commander scan will pick you up, whats the point in trying? And because I dont ever go near Karkand anymore, they become even less useful. Trying to play spec ops on the open maps and place C4 onto enemy tanks, well, it aint gona happen. A 3man AT team, on those maps, will make things happen.

Whilst spec ops can be fun to play, its just not ful-filling for an entire round, such as playing a sniper. Its a lot of waiting and praying before, you get to kill 1 tank or a troop walks over your C4 so you can detonate it. Thats no fun at all, and you can do more productive things for your team such as taking out your M4/G36C, etc, and putting them to use against the enemy troops in infantry maps.

And since when do spec ops defend flags? Last time I checked, they get covered in AT mines and Claymores, and if they dont get the enemies, a Heli usually turns round to go and defend it themselves.
2006-07-03 13:38:12
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|7278|Tampa Bay Florida
I think the Spec-Ops class is highly overrated..... on maps like Karkand every other player in the server will be Spec-Ops.  don't get me wrong tho, I still like the kit.

Last edited by Spearhead (2006-07-03 13:40:52)

2006-07-03 13:44:15
SnowySmurf
Member
+-2|7201
yeah man good point i love special ops but i think the class should be made better with no armor its tricky to be good with them. the g36 is my fav gun by far but i dont think c4 is very good compared to claymores and anti tank stuff
2006-07-03 13:47:31
S.Greendyk
Member
+7|7097|The Netherlands

specialistx2324 wrote:

One possibility is that people think that spec ops are a bunch of " arrogant , lone wolfers, who farm for points and dont help out" if they can be used as a cohesive unit, then they become more powerful.
I agree with you...

I think thats it's a fact

1.) Spec Ops are vital for blowing up strategic objects in battle(UAV, Artillery, Radar, you name it...)
2.) Spec Ops are most handy for blowing up hostile armor(If an AT is not around, who els would blow it?)
2006-07-03 13:56:12
bobroonie.bda
Member
+143|7269
best class in the game with the best weapons. IMO
2006-07-03 14:02:53
tino275
Member
+14|7200
I don't know if someone has suggested this or not but the absolute best thing would be TO ENABLE SP OPS TO BLOW OFF C4 ONE AT A TIME.  Lay 5 and blow 1. then 2. then 3 and so on. or all at once.  You could switch it the same way you switch from auto to single shot on any machine gun. I could only immagine how many Flyrs we could piss off. Well they piss me off.

But what do i know I am by far not an expert on this stuff.

Last edited by tino275 (2006-07-03 14:17:06)

 

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