Aardcore
Member
+60|7185|USA, Arizona
I've seen it on every server I've been to, if not at a 90% high of the time that I read "Respect all players" or "Do not act the fool." Yet I've had some strange encounters with hypocracy if I've ever been in one. I'll admit, I've been kicked out of servers for unintentional TK's but servers have autopunish/kick settings if a certain TK limit was reached and I can't say that I'm sorry for trying to be a good teamplayer but happen to find a group of morons who run in AFTER I threw a grenade when they were only seconds behind me watching me throw a grenade, as if they couldn't also hear "Frag out!" being yelled as I tossed some in.

What I'm trying to get at here is that is there any respect in Battlefield 2 at all? Seems like the only people who are respected are these immensely point calculated BF2 players such as Volx and Firestorm, even Blazin.uk fit in there at some point as well as any other guy (All hands down for Bushviper, that guy is KING!)

Anyway, being kicked/banned bothers me because I know most of them were undeserved, if not all of them. The times I was forcefully kicked, like I said, autopunish/kick settings on a server for unintentional kills but the other times have been utterly moronic; such as a time I was in a Gulf of Oman server flying an SU-34 doing bombing runs to keep enemy vehicles and infantry grounded from mobilizing to any other flags that were going to be captured while my other teammates would capture flags on the opposite end, I figured I was doing a good job and formulating myself as a worthy teamplayer and that's when I noticed the enemy commander artillery kills. A second later I bombed a flag and the enemy commander, who was in an APC, was killed by my bombs. Not more than a second later I was kicked out for "ATTACKING DEFENSELESS PLAYERS".

I'm not one to try and complain about anything here but I've noticed that most of the times I've been kicked out of a server was because I've been apparently blamed for killing too many people, 'whoring' a certain vehicle when in reality I had been only using it once, NEVER dying and doing a DAMN good job! I'm sure that's happened to alot of us, if not most of us undeserving of such a 'crime' committed. But what exactly makes a player respected? I really believe myself as a worthy team player, player at most though a little backup wouldn't hurt every now and then.

I never bunnyhop.
I STILL have no idea what dolphin diving is.
I suck (but try) with jets.
You'll barely next to never find me in a helicopter.
I only grab tanks when I know no one is using them only to help reinforce & capture flags necessary.

I really feel that my actions as a Battlefield 2 player are practically next to saintly and that's saying that with as much modesty as that boastful comment could be. I wish I had witnesses to account for my actions though because I'm afraid of only the worst comments to come onto me from this post. Again, I'm not here to complain though the result may seem as such, my intent is not. I've just summed up a long thoughtful process of message to really ask one question through multiple standpoints.

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What makes a respectable Battlefield 2 player:
His ability to destroy everything and ANYTHING in a jet?
His ability to solo attack chopper?
His uncanny decision to grab the armor at ANY chance he can leaving others immobilized?
His menial decision to go medic and only medic, for revives and heals alone?
His zealous thumb striking against the spacebar as he hops, hops and hops?
The One who hits CTRL over an enemy's disposed body?

Or perhaps it's something else we close to never see? Teamwork.
Rather...
Is a respectable Battlefield 2 player one who tries his hardest, knowing he'll be the only guy at a flag for capture?
He who honks hoping the teammate will join in premise that they both will go capture a flag in benefit of the team?

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I suppose anyone could say I should just shut up and play the game, become better at whatever I'm sucking at or that I could stop playing the game all together but the fact of the matter is that I love the game, just not the atmosphere I'm surrounded by, a lack of respect and always in fear that anything I do might cause me to get banned or kicked from a server, yet as I play it also feels like an adventure for me, in hopes someone would recognize my ability as I hope to look for recognition in others as RESPECTABLE team players, or players all together.

So besides BF2 being a constant question for me that "Respect exists." Are you one of those respectable players?

=-=-MAJOR EDIT=-=-=

Decided to use this thread as a place to keep note of the servers I'm banned from, I'm pretty sure in SOME way and form, my respects are known infamously in these servers:

Aug, 15, 2006.SG-3 (A) Ranked ip 72.36.171.53 |Reason: Attacking 'defenseless' APCs trying to capture flags.

Aug. 16, 2006.THE .BAD. SERVER ip: down at the moment. |Reason: "AARDCORE U HACKER! UR MOVING TOO FAST FOR US!!! GO SOMEWHERE ELSE WITH YOUR HAXX!!"

Last edited by Aardcore (2006-08-16 16:18:53)

-=]DeatH1337[=-
Member
+51|7105|England

Aardcore wrote:

. I'll admit, I've been kicked out of servers for unintentional TK's but servers have autopunish/kick settings if a certain TK limit was reached and I can't say that I'm sorry for trying to be a good teamplayer but happen to find a group of morons who run in AFTER I threw a grenade when they were only seconds behind me watching me throw a grenade, as if they couldn't also hear "Frag out!" being yelled as I tossed some in.
Well, i have onboard graphics and i never hear "frag out."
Doggehspike
~Ð~
+41|6964
Wow just wow
Aardcore
Member
+60|7185|USA, Arizona
Seriously? You don't hear other teammates saying "Frag out!" or "Grenade!" and then explosions happening after? Because that must be my problem, that I have people with that... format... I guess happening and then dying because they didn't hear me, and though I try apologizing, of course, Page Down like an injustice!
Mason4Assassin444
retired
+552|7134|USA
I hear teammates yell "frag out" and the like....

Its like "need first aid?" and "ammo here"
SEREMAKER
BABYMAKIN EXPERT √
+2,187|7040|Mountains of NC

I hear grenade and frag out also but anyway +1 good job to you ---- respect is hard to earn and the guys you listed don't get much respect either bc everyone calls them medic whores or armor whores etc etc about the only respect you can achieve is either in a clan or gathering a squad and being a good squad leader and using your brain, ppl {mostly guys in your squad and the commander} will respect you if follow orders and give rational orders and know when to use assets correctly
https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/17445/carhartt.jpg
xintegrityx
set your body ablaze
+37|7200|Louisiana
Whether you hear thinks like "Frag out!" depends on your sound settings. If they're set to low, you won't hear it, and you also won't hear multiple "spotted" speech; for instance, you'll just hear "Enemy boat spotted," whereas if it was set higher you'd hear "Enemy water vehicle spotted" once in awhile too. (An interesting sidenote: the things your character says are variable from player to player, i.e., you might hear your character say "Okay" but a player next to you hears "You got it".)

Anyway I've never had much of a problem with disprespect in the game. I've only been kicked once for teamkilling, and that was three accidental TK's, of course. No one has ever called my skills into question, and I've only once had someone say something in public chat about me, but that was understandable because I had gotten several lucky shots in a row on him.
stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|7192|California

Respect and BF2 do not belong in the same sentence
SamuraiDogg
Member
+2|7089|Germany | Nationality Turkish
I respect players which play fair and rock with it.
Also smart players with tactical movements and nice teamwork.
And of course commanders which doin a good job or people who forgiving your accidental tks.

I hate unfair players, maybe they rock but they "rock cheap" and they dont meriting respect.

But dont expect to get respect or somethin. Bf2 is full of retarded players, they even dont got respect for itself.
AllmightyOz
Member
+50|6958|United States - Ohio
bf2 + respect = not solveable. DOES NOT COMPUTE!
-=5TON3D
Member
+42|7006|u.k

SamuraiDogg wrote:

I respect players which play fair and rock with it.
Also smart players with tactical movements and nice teamwork.
And of course commanders which doin a good job or people who forgiving your accidental tks.

I hate unfair players, maybe they rock but they "rock cheap" and they dont meriting respect.

But dont expect to get respect or somethin. Bf2 is full of retarded players, they even dont got respect for itself.
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|7146|Canberra, AUS
On the subject of server rules, I'd like to test your opinion of ours.

In a nutshell:

1. No abuse. Ever.
2. Don't spam mutiny/kick votes.
3. Don't TK or Force TK's. Doing either deliberately, well...
4. No exploiting, hacking, statpadding etc.
5. (and this is my favourite) Do NOT auto-punish. That means don't instantly punish when you're TK'd, think the situation out or wait if he says sorry.
6. Don't teamswap just to win.
7. Camping/spawncamping/uncap raping is allowed but discouraged. Capping-out is also discouraged. Note the use of the word 'discouraged' instead of 'not allowed' or 'forbidden'.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Brasso
member
+1,549|7102

-=]DeatH1337[=- wrote:

Aardcore wrote:

. I'll admit, I've been kicked out of servers for unintentional TK's but servers have autopunish/kick settings if a certain TK limit was reached and I can't say that I'm sorry for trying to be a good teamplayer but happen to find a group of morons who run in AFTER I threw a grenade when they were only seconds behind me watching me throw a grenade, as if they couldn't also hear "Frag out!" being yelled as I tossed some in.
Well, i have onboard graphics and i never hear "frag out."
sound has to be on medium.
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
The_Jester
Member
+52|6963|Italy
You look like a good honest teamplayer: not a vehicle whore, not a teamkiller, good w/l ratio, use all kits and play different maps.

So my advice is: ignore all the childish idiots and keep playing hard. You get banned/kicked by some retarded admin/autopunish rule? Ignore it and keep playing.
There are a lot of kids out there, just ignore them and keep owning.

+1 for a good player
kilgoretrout
Member
+53|6942|Little Rock, AR
I think you just need to find better servers.  The rules Spark posted seem like they'd make a fun atmosphere, and I personally like the CROW and TOP servers.  If you don't like a server, or if the admins are being dickbags and kicking you for killing them, just look for another server.  When you find good ones, add them to your favorites and only play those.  Since I've been playing almost exclusively in servers from my favorites list, I've had a much better BF2 experience.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7093|London, England
I used to be a good player (like you) until all the CTD's/1.3 lag got to me and so all the stupid BF2 infantry crap got to me too, now i really don't give a damn. There are too many clanners/smacktards/high ranked players/gameplay imbalance issues to make me care anymore. Last time this commander arty'd the carrier so i switched teams and TK'd him until he left the server. Fucking cunts.
Paco_the_Insane
Phorum Phantom
+244|7116|Ohio
Off topic: Bushviper annoys the crap out of me, him an Babyspinach on a team were SAS at worlord, and my team were Insurgents, and you know i was like our teams highest ranked, so they just owned the crap out of us. Like twice everyone elses scores, i think i might have pulled a bronze one round, but they kept killing us.

I really think the auto-balance should look at other things besides numbers, like rank.
BigmacK
Back from the Dead.
+628|7222|Chicago.
What makes a respectable player in my eyes:

Curteous, never whines, moans, calls out hack accusations, or spams chat.
Is a decent team player.
Is decent in combat.
Understands how to win.
Dosen't whore vehicles/aircraft.
specxops
Banned
+18|7122|Boca Raton,Florida
u mentioned how u dont use vehicles how does that make u respectful??? vehicles are in the game for someone to be using them if your bad in them ur fault
{BMF}*Frank_The_Tank
U.S. > Iran
+497|7049|Florida

-=]DeatH1337[=- wrote:

Aardcore wrote:

. I'll admit, I've been kicked out of servers for unintentional TK's but servers have autopunish/kick settings if a certain TK limit was reached and I can't say that I'm sorry for trying to be a good teamplayer but happen to find a group of morons who run in AFTER I threw a grenade when they were only seconds behind me watching me throw a grenade, as if they couldn't also hear "Frag out!" being yelled as I tossed some in.
Well, i have onboard graphics and i never hear "frag out."
I hope you mean on board sound card, because I dont see how your playing this game if its onboard graphics lol
Aardcore
Member
+60|7185|USA, Arizona
I'm sure he does LOL, but I use onboard sound and it works fine... I mean the quality could be alot better but that's because I'm usually running Winamp.

I used to keep BF2 the only program running till I figured out no matter how high the sound quality I could get on this onboard sound, I still couldn't pick up enemy footsteps, because I'd try and pick them out in case if I was getting snuck up when I'd be at some enemy flag trying to cap it?

Never worked. Never got a UAV when I asked for it either so the result was a failure, and a death at a neutralized flag. Nowadays I just pump my favorite tunes and get on BF2 and just frag it out as hard and best I can.

*Currently listening to Nina Williams' theme from Tekken3* That beat is PHAT, SON!
Aardcore
Member
+60|7185|USA, Arizona
Back to topic though, so far I haven't run into anyone being disrespectful here so that's cool, just ingame that's a whole different story, usually the tale doesn't get any farther than getting banned or kicked out of a game, and the problem is, I'm in a CONSTANT fear of that happening. I dunno how these Top 10 Player dudes do it, not getting banned or kicked out of a game for doing 'so good' because I do good and I end up getting kicked or banned from a server, it's horrible!
xintegrityx
set your body ablaze
+37|7200|Louisiana

kilgoretrout wrote:

I think you just need to find better servers.  The rules Spark posted seem like they'd make a fun atmosphere, and I personally like the CROW and TOP servers.  If you don't like a server, or if the admins are being dickbags and kicking you for killing them, just look for another server.  When you find good ones, add them to your favorites and only play those.  Since I've been playing almost exclusively in servers from my favorites list, I've had a much better BF2 experience.
Is your name a reference to the Appleseed Cast song? Great band
Defiance
Member
+438|7143

People don't even respect the top 10. They think they have no lives and play BF2 24/7.

Nobody (well, a few) even respects the people that make the ROE and the like so servers aren't full of hacking, glitching, padding morons.

No, there are too many idiots in bf2 for there to be respect.
xintegrityx
set your body ablaze
+37|7200|Louisiana

Defiance wrote:

People don't even respect the top 10. They think they have no lives and play BF2 24/7.
Well, you know...

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