Poll

Best American President Ever...

George Washington9%9% - 22
Thomas Jefferson3%3% - 8
Abraham Lincoln13%13% - 32
Ulysses S. Grant0%0% - 2
John F. Kennedy13%13% - 31
Franklin Delano Roosevelt12%12% - 30
Ronald Reagan15%15% - 37
Bill Clinton14%14% - 35
George W. Bush8%8% - 20
Other7%7% - 17
Total: 234
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6971|SE London

CameronPoe wrote:

I'm finding it hard to believe Clinton is on a par with JFK and Abe Lincoln.
Clinton was a very effective president - he created record budget surpluses, which Bush almost instantly turned into record deficits. He did a lot of great stuff.
Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|7082
i accidently voted for Jefferson...shit he was teh suxorz.
FDR FTW

Last edited by Superior Mind (2006-08-24 19:58:12)

jimbo21
Member
+11|7041
I am not a big bush fan but the fact that we are fighting the terroists in the center of thier territory and not in ours is ok with me. If Bush had let it go like Clinton did after trade center bombing one or the cole bombing we would still be seeing bombings happining in the states. Keep the war on thier turf i say. There blowing up thier own people and buildings not ours.  Although our fighting men and women are taking the hits over in the middle east for us civilians aleast us civilians have been safe so far in the U.S. so god bless those men and women.
As far as this dyke thing i think hind sight is 20 20. There is know way you can fix every outdated levy system from the presidents chair I think the Army Core of Engineeres is most responsible for that f-up.
Major_Spittle
Banned
+276|7044|United States of America
Thomas Jefferson, the Louisiana Purchase and he was a very brilliant Conservative that understood people, freedom, and human rights.  Read some of the stuff he wrote.

I also think Regan is a close Second.

FDR is dead last, his wife ran the White House and he created the biggest tax of all to hurt the poor, Social Security.  How much has fica taken from you that you will never see????
Jinto-sk
Laid Back Yorkshireman
+183|6981|Scarborough Yorkshire England
I liked Clinton
I thought Kennedy although he did good things was quite a womaniser
Paco_the_Insane
Phorum Phantom
+244|7034|Ohio

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

Here's a good question, who was the first 'President Of The United States'?
John Hanson FTW
oug
Calmer than you are.
+380|6908|Πάϊ

CameronPoe wrote:

LOL. Like when he ignored the report that Al Qaeda were planning to use planes to attack America?
Its off subject but couldn't resist:
One thing is for sure: There was no such report. Because there was no such plan in the first place. That's just the Democratic propaganda targeting  the Rebublicans in the most retarded manner. Since their policy is one and the same, the only thing left to fight about is who is more capable of carrying it out.

So saying there was a report helps the Republicans cause they need to find a target, but it also helps the Democrats cause Bush supposedly didn't take it into consideration. As if any of that was ever possible...

on subject: GO RICHARD!!!

Last edited by oug (2006-08-25 08:12:16)

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USAFDude_1988
Will fly for food.
+120|6898|Daytona Beach, FL
Null vote.. because you really can't say who's the "best."

Washington, Lincoln, FDR, Eisenhower, Kennedy, and Reagan are all definitely a step above everyone else.

Ikarti wrote:

Who chose the GWB comedy option?
I actually thought the Clinton option was funnier.

Bertster7 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

I'm finding it hard to believe Clinton is on a par with JFK and Abe Lincoln.
Clinton was a very effective president - he created record budget surpluses, which Bush almost instantly turned into record deficits. He did a lot of great stuff.
Almost instantly? Umm.. yeah this little thing happened on Sept. 11, 2001.. you know what I'm talkin bout?.. it didn't really get out much.

If you think about legacies... Lincoln won the civil war and freed the slaves, FDR kicked the Axis' ass, Eisenhower helped to kick Hitler's ass.. then went on to create the Interstate highway system, JFK has the success of the space program and the victory in the Cuban missle crisis.. and Clinton's legacy is... umm.. let me think..  Lewinsky?

Last edited by USAFDude_1988 (2006-08-25 08:34:38)

jonsimon
Member
+224|6884

USAFDude_1988 wrote:

Null vote.. because you really can't say who's the "best."

Washington, Lincoln, FDR, Eisenhower, Kennedy, and Reagan are all definitely a step above everyone else.

Ikarti wrote:

Who chose the GWB comedy option?
I actually thought the Clinton option was funnier.

Bertster7 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

I'm finding it hard to believe Clinton is on a par with JFK and Abe Lincoln.
Clinton was a very effective president - he created record budget surpluses, which Bush almost instantly turned into record deficits. He did a lot of great stuff.
Almost instantly? Umm.. yeah this little thing happened on Sept. 11, 2001.. you know what I'm talkin bout?.. it didn't really get out much.

If you think about legacies... Lincoln won the civil war and freed the slaves, FDR kicked the Axis' ass, Eisenhower helped to kick Hitler's ass.. then went on to create the Interstate highway system, JFK has the success of the space program and the victory in the Cuban missle crisis.. and Clinton's legacy is... umm.. let me think..  Lewinsky?
And Bush's legacy is the trillion dollar defeceit and a losing war in Iraq. See why he's the comedy option?
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|7085|NJ
Only 5 more years for me to become president from today.
GATOR591957
Member
+84|7016

oug wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

LOL. Like when he ignored the report that Al Qaeda were planning to use planes to attack America?
Its off subject but couldn't resist:
One thing is for sure: There was no such report. Because there was no such plan in the first place. That's just the Democratic propaganda targeting  the Rebublicans in the most retarded manner. Since their policy is one and the same, the only thing left to fight about is who is more capable of carrying it out.

So saying there was a report helps the Republicans cause they need to find a target, but it also helps the Democrats cause Bush supposedly didn't take it into consideration. As if any of that was ever possible...

on subject: GO RICHARD!!!
Well that just ruined the Republicans saying it was all planned in the Clinton administration now doesn't it.  Pick a story Reps....
GATOR591957
Member
+84|7016

USAFDude_1988 wrote:

Null vote.. because you really can't say who's the "best."

Washington, Lincoln, FDR, Eisenhower, Kennedy, and Reagan are all definitely a step above everyone else.

Ikarti wrote:

Who chose the GWB comedy option?
I actually thought the Clinton option was funnier.

Bertster7 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

I'm finding it hard to believe Clinton is on a par with JFK and Abe Lincoln.
Clinton was a very effective president - he created record budget surpluses, which Bush almost instantly turned into record deficits. He did a lot of great stuff.
Almost instantly? Umm.. yeah this little thing happened on Sept. 11, 2001.. you know what I'm talkin bout?.. it didn't really get out much.

If you think about legacies... Lincoln won the civil war and freed the slaves, FDR kicked the Axis' ass, Eisenhower helped to kick Hitler's ass.. then went on to create the Interstate highway system, JFK has the success of the space program and the victory in the Cuban missle crisis.. and Clinton's legacy is... umm.. let me think..  Lewinsky?
Sept. 11 had very little to do with the deficit.  Outlandish spending did.. Tax breaks for the rich, breaks for the oil companies shall we go on....
Jenkinsbball
Banned
+149|6937|USA bitches!
Lincoln because he helped crush the stupid Confederacy and ended slavery. His leadership brought our country together and we prospered afterwards.

I'd also say Washington, because he never abused his powers and lead as an example to all presidents after him on how to run the office.

And, I can't believe you put Bush up there, strictly for flames.
ts-pulsar
Member
+54|6892
Jefferson FTW, he screwed over the french and doubled the size of the country all at once   I also happen to agree with him politically, it's to bad there aren't any politicians like him anymore.

Lincoln comes in second, he had to be a great leader to hold the country together after the civil war.

Washington comes in third, should be obvious.

FDR fourth, he was an excellent leader during WW2, though he was very shortsited with his programs to help during the great depression... and he married his freaking cousin, so I'm wondering on the earlier comment about his wife being hot.

Reagan/Kennedy get a tie for me, they both did a lot for this country, kennedy really got things going with the moon program, and saved all our butts in the cuban missle crisis, and Reagan got the country out of a nasty slump and quite possibly prevented another depression.

Grant comes in 6th, he was a good general, but didn't do too much while president, which means he didn't screw up the country, always a good thing.

Bush comes in 7th, I wouldn't even have him on the list, he's gonna have a hell of a legacy and a name known in school books 200 years from now, but not for the right reasons.  Only things he's done that I like is taking down the Taliban, and the tax cuts, which were an even cut across the board for everyone, not just the rich like a lot of people seem to think.

Clinton comes in last for me because of the brady bill, it was a blatent attack to the constitution, and as a gunsmith attacked my livelyhood.  God damned prick.  BTW, I probably would have boned monica too.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,068|7161|PNW

Jenkinsbball wrote:

Lincoln because he helped crush the stupid Confederacy and ended slavery. His leadership brought our country together and we prospered afterwards.
The civil war was about money, not slavery. I'm sure it could've been handled without our troops shooting eachother.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2006-08-25 19:31:07)

eagles1106
Member
+269|6973|Marlton, New Jersey.
Reagan or FDR, hard to decide...
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|7085|NJ
Yes kevin costello is my real name but I'm from jersey
FrowG
Member
+0|6872
Dick Cheney FTW

Come on you dont really think W is the pres.

Last edited by FrowG (2006-08-27 01:29:57)

Kurazoo
Pheasant Plucker
+440|7074|West Yorkshire, U.K
President F.D Roosevelt took over from Herbet Hoover and fixed america with fireside chats.
TeamZephyr
Maintaining My Rage Since 1975
+124|6919|Hillside, Melbourne, Australia
I can't believe that Reagan is leading this poll.

That man was a joke, a bad joke conpared to the likes of Abraham Lincoln, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7041|USA

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Jenkinsbball wrote:

Lincoln because he helped crush the stupid Confederacy and ended slavery. His leadership brought our country together and we prospered afterwards.
The civil war was about money, not slavery. I'm sure it could've been handled without our troops shooting eachother.
It was about money??!!...love to see your link that talks about that. See, I always thought it was about states rights
jonsimon
Member
+224|6884

lowing wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Jenkinsbball wrote:

Lincoln because he helped crush the stupid Confederacy and ended slavery. His leadership brought our country together and we prospered afterwards.
The civil war was about money, not slavery. I'm sure it could've been handled without our troops shooting eachother.
It was about money??!!...love to see your link that talks about that. See, I always thought it was about states rights
It wasn't about just one thing. It was a result of rising tensions and differences between the ideologies and public perceptions between the south and the north, both sides were wholly justified in their stance.
Horseman 77
Banned
+160|7226

Chuckles wrote:

Horseman 77 wrote:

quote]
I see you had trouble connecting the dots. It was a law suit for slander brought by Paula Jones clinton suborned several witnesses and lied under oath. " I wasn't about hillary being to ugly to fuck. You try either and see how fast " you go to jail "

The economy started its decline under his administration. I didn't blame him nor do I credit him for its growth. He achieved nothing, didn't even try and deliver on even one campaign promise and was quickly eclipsed by history. Alas he is the " forgotten president "

PS lots of people died Many right in our own country while he had other things on his mind, Many people feel 911 was a direct and expected result of his " Blow up an empty tent then Cut and Run" or  "I didn't See that " policy on terrorism. He basically waited it out and didnt act knowing it would be ( someone Else's problem ) after 2000. Unfortunatly we all paid for it. Imagain if we confronted Hitler in 1938. Well clinton had his chance to do something  ( anything ) and didn't.
And I don't think his administration was without accomplishment either.  The budget was balanced,
the Family Medical Leave act,
the Brady Bill,
welfare reform,
the communications decency act,
The Communications decency act ?... are you being funny? is the an attempt at humor?
Enough work to keep any President very busy... for a Week or Two
the cold war ended with the Reagan tax plan still untouched and he had all the military spending cuts.
That balanced the Budget.
Many think he cut Too much.  The Brady bill is a total joke. Minimum wage increases didn't help anyone especially the poor.
-xXx-MoFo
Member
+5|7007
John F. Kennedy
Cause he banged M.Monroe....
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6945

TeamZephyr wrote:

I can't believe that Reagan is leading this poll.

That man was a joke, a bad joke conpared to the likes of Abraham Lincoln, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.
QFE. I can't believe people are voting for a man who helped destroy latin america.

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