Teflon.DEP
cunning n' quick
+35|6896|United States
I have recently found that several of the best pilots and many average pilots dont use the bombing reticule aka the HUD (Heads Up Display).

I for one use the HUD, if I dont I always over shoot the bombs and miss my target by a few meters.
But even with the reticule I still have a hard time nailing tanks, apc, mobile AA with a single bomb.
I dont fly the bomber, I use the fighter, mainly because I feel so vulnerable in the bomber.

I use single drop mode, basically you drop your 2 bombs, and when u go to reload only reload 1, drop that then get 2 again and for now on you'll drop 1 bomb at a time.

Could somebody explain to me how to properly use the fighters bombing reticule? I find the MIG and J-10 to be the hardest to bomb with, F-18 is a bit easier. Its just im not sure how to properly use the reticules.

I wanna get to the point where I can take out a tank with 2 bombs and get direct hits.

(And yes, I read the Aviator guide here on BF2s, but it was still a bit confuseing for me)
=W=GeneralSherman
Banned
+83|7003
just try dive bombing ur targerget and slowly start bombing from a more direct/horizontle run

Last edited by =W=GeneralSherman (2006-09-02 11:35:46)

kilgoretrout
Member
+53|6916|Little Rock, AR
i guess this doesn't answer your question about the reticule, but i don't really use it.  i'm not the best pilot in the world, but i can almost always hit tanks and usually hit running cars with bombs.  the thing that helped me the most was switching to the rear chase view after dropping bombs when i'm pulling out of the dive to see exactly where my bombs are landing.  each plane feels different, but if you watch where they're actually hitting, you'll get a feel for it.
Teflon.DEP
cunning n' quick
+35|6896|United States

kilgoretrout wrote:

i guess this doesn't answer your question about the reticule, but i don't really use it.  i'm not the best pilot in the world, but i can almost always hit tanks and usually hit running cars with bombs.  the thing that helped me the most was switching to the rear chase view after dropping bombs when i'm pulling out of the dive to see exactly where my bombs are landing.  each plane feels different, but if you watch where they're actually hitting, you'll get a feel for it.
I do that. I have rear view set to the right movement of the rubber hat switch on my joystick.
But my bombs always seem to land in front of the target or around it and I never get direct hits. I normally go to like 200 ft and drop down.

I can destroy a car or moveing car very easily. Its just destroying tanks isnt easy for me.,....i always gotta go back and reload to finish it off...and sometimes by then the f15 ends up finishing it off and m stuck with a damage assist

Last edited by Teflon.DEP (2006-09-02 11:37:14)

genius_man16
Platinum Star whore
+365|7124|Middle of nowhere

kilgoretrout wrote:

the thing that helped me the most was switching to the rear chase view after dropping bombs when i'm pulling out of the dive to see exactly where my bombs are landing.
best bit of advice i've ever read, +1 for you m8
SoC./Omega
Member
+122|6987|Omaha, Nebraska!
i divebomb or use my HUD and i almost always hit
Lucien
Fantasma Parastasie
+1,451|7099
I do it on feel. Just practice and in the end you will be able to get two bombs on the roof of a speeding APC.
https://i.imgur.com/HTmoH.jpg
Teflon.DEP
cunning n' quick
+35|6896|United States
I know im doing damage because my bombs always land extremely close to the tank or APC, and when i go back to reload and come back at them again I see them smokeing, its just getting those direct hits is what I wanna do....

Last edited by Teflon.DEP (2006-09-02 11:40:16)

Lucien
Fantasma Parastasie
+1,451|7099
use guns against anything but tanks. In fact, I often take down APC's and AA vehicles with guns alone. In any case it will give you a much better chance of finishing someone off with bombs.
https://i.imgur.com/HTmoH.jpg
genius_man16
Platinum Star whore
+365|7124|Middle of nowhere

Teflon.DEP wrote:

I know im doing damage because my bombs always land extremely close to the tank or APC, and when i go back to reload and come back at them again I see them smokeing, its just getting those direct hits is what I wanna do....
just do the lookback thing that kilgoretrout suggested and you'll be able to do it in no time

if you can see where your bombs land, you'll be able to tell how far off you are, and compensate next time and such
specops10-4
Member
+108|7189|In the hills
I generally DIVE STRAIGHT down and release my bombs about 50m/ft/yrds up and pull up insanely hard.  I use a M/KB so i go crazy and if there is a large mountain in my path, well i normally die.  But when I do that i have a 95% kill percentage.  I also go into F11 view to watch my bombs land, however i dont do that when I dive bomb as it makes you become lazy for a second watching your bombs...
Lucien
Fantasma Parastasie
+1,451|7099
If you're bombing while flying (relatively) straight, you will have to fly down after the first bomb to get both to hit the same spot. It's hard to explain, but just try it. I suggest practicing on the UAV site at the US base on Kubra Dam. Two bombs will destroy it, and it's a great way to practice the double bombing.
https://i.imgur.com/HTmoH.jpg
Teflon.DEP
cunning n' quick
+35|6896|United States

SargeV1.4 wrote:

If you're bombing while flying (relatively) straight, you will have to fly down after the first bomb to get both to hit the same spot. It's hard to explain, but just try it. I suggest practicing on the UAV site at the US base on Kubra Dam. Two bombs will destroy it, and it's a great way to practice the double bombing.
I know precisely what u mean sarge...after dropping the 1st, I tilt the nose down a bit to compensate for the 2nd bomb....hopeing both will land in close proximity. since the 2nd 1 typcially lands in front of the 1st...

But typcvially I get to 200ft and come down at a 45 degree angle...I suppose after I drop the 1st, i'll just tilt the nose down a bit to get the 2nd to land in the same spot

Last edited by Teflon.DEP (2006-09-02 11:49:05)

SteikeTa
Member
+153|7194|Norway/Norwegen/ Norge/Noruega
I find it easy to hit with my bombs... don't know what advice to give, except for practice practice practice. And yeah, what was mentioned with the rear view thingi... that helps too. Eventually, you will get a feel of it when to release the bombs. Just takes practice. Dive bombing is alright, but that wont help you to get that feel when to drop bombs when NOT diving. Practice both i guess. Get a friend of yours to help you on empty servers.... make him drive the tanks and you bomb him. And did you know that you can start single bombing immediately? If no, when you drop your bombs for the very first time, just switch to missiles quickly. You will only drop one if the timing is correct. Drop the other one and when you reload 2.... you will still have single bombing. The one you mentioned is also a good way to start single bombing.

Good luck mate

Hmm, may i suggest you watch ccc||planewhores movie? He has some bomb runs in it that might be helpful.

Last edited by SteikeTa (2006-09-02 11:57:45)

Teflon.DEP
cunning n' quick
+35|6896|United States
I have the logitech extreme 3d pro...so I have f9 view set to the UP motion of the 4 way rubber switch.....f11 view set to the RIGHT motion and f12 view set to DOWN motion.
Lucien
Fantasma Parastasie
+1,451|7099

Teflon.DEP wrote:

I have the logitech extreme 3d pro...so I have f9 view set to the UP motion of the 4 way rubber switch.....f11 view set to the RIGHT motion and f12 view set to DOWN motion.
hmmm same joystick here, this is my layout:

cockpit: 5
rear view: 6
fly by (VERY important!): hat up

firing modes: 3
bombs/missles: 4
Guns: trigger (just feels better)
flares: 2

afterburner: 8
map: 9
map zoom: 10
https://i.imgur.com/HTmoH.jpg
Samtheman53
Banned
+346|7142|UK
another tip, dont bomb AA, shoot it
ReGmAn78
Member
+16|7093|Alberta, Canada

SargeV1.4 wrote:

use guns against anything but tanks. In fact, I often take down APC's and AA vehicles with guns alone. In any case it will give you a much better chance of finishing someone off with bombs.
^^^^^ the best way,  you will almost always get your target.  In fact i find myself useing guns more then bombs for APCs/AA vehicles and saving my bombs for infintry....this is also the best way to take out helis, dont let them know ur coming, just shower them with cannons, that way they dont hear lock and move.
wah1188
You orrible caaaaaaan't
+321|6907|UK
Practice and keep practicing usually you will get used to certain planes, and find it difficult when the rounds swap. Eventually you will get used to every plane in the game.  Still I find the F35 a good bombing plane when I'm not getting bummed by a J-10. Oh and always mg everything since your going back to the airfield to refill bombs eitherway. When approaching aways ask yourself if your quite confident of hitting the target if not double back give your self enough time to lead the target conpensate for movement, no point missing the target and returning to the airfield someone else might get it. Good to see your using single bomb mode because the second bomb is usually wasted. Also like everyone else says dive if not your going to have to release the bombs quite early to avoid overshooting. Oh and read that aviator guide in featured posts its amazing.

Last edited by wah1188 (2006-09-02 12:17:04)

Delphy
Member
+45|7032|Bristol, UK
I can't bomb for shit... it's annoying. Also I can't track a fighter or escape AA lock very often.....

Yah, I shouldn't be allowed in jets.
WilhelmSissener
Banned
+557|7180|Oslo, Norway
dive bombin period.
Go-Devil
Does a wild bear crap in the woods, son ????
+3|6896
Some things to remember....

bombing is just like sniping, something you cant do from the first time, practice makes perfect !!!!

go to single player and bomb away....

bombs fly diagonal (when flying horizontal..) so drop in front of your target, not above it....

when flying around allways remain in bomb mode, never switch to missiles, if you spot another jet, take your time to get on its tale, open up with mg, when he realizes what happens, switch to rockets, lock on, wait for him to fire his flares, then fire 2 or 3 rockets...... ( BOOM, you earned a kill.....)

bombers like f15 arent made for dive bombing, their large wingarea allows them to fly slow and drop bomb-carpets....  when you divebomb, you will drop all bombs in one place, when you fly slow and horizontal your bombs will follow eachoter close up, thus allowing you to even destroy a full health tank..., i had bomb runs with f15 where i could take out a tank , an apc, and an AA in only one bombing run......

practice with every plane, every jet acts different, large bombers fly slower, j10 make sharp angles, allowing aeffective divebombing, f35 can hover (ever tried to rape a base while hovering in your f35 ??? )

i dont know how others do it, but i allways drop my full load of bombs at once....
its often so tht you will hit infantry (doesnt show up on HUD) while trying to bomb a tank.....
one bomb at a time takes time, you might need to turn around and make a second run...
your jet is so fast, i dont mind it when i need to reload....


This is wht i think about when i fly, i don't say its the best way to learn bombing, i just say its my way....
hope you learned something   
genius_man16
Platinum Star whore
+365|7124|Middle of nowhere

Samtheman53 wrote:

another tip, dont bomb AA, shoot it
lol, that sounds so simple, but it took me like 2 1/2 hrs in a jet to realize that
Burks
Member
+2|7089
If I can't dive bomb for some reason I do this:

If your first bomb is pretty dead on then this will work (for me at least). If the 1st is hitting good the 1st is over shooting, right before the 2nd is being dropped angle down a little bit. This will let the 2nd bomb hit closer to the 1st. I've seen this used by a few people with decent success.
T-Assassin
Member
+0|7148
the rear view trick is good...but u gotta be careful u don't lose control and ur bearings...

2 tips that made me a more efficient bomber...

1. play on a practice server... have a friend on the opposing army climb in a tank, and tell u either short or long...practice for an hour or so...u'll catch on fast...

2. get high!!!  no not weed ...get altitude....when u see a ground target, make a 60* decent...drop 1 or 2 bombs(fighter) at below 200ft....(again practice on friend) the sharper the decent the closer the bombs will hit.

oh...and i guess another tip...

USE GUNS!!!

it will at least soften the target in case ur bombs miss...and if they come close enuff...success!!


i really miss the old days when pilots had to use a little more skill to shoot opposing pilots down...not just spamming missles...used to fly against YupPatriots, and GD....was he good...i swear...if they had stats on missles launched, he would be under 100!!

anyway...good luck on the bombin!!

and PRACTICE!!

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