Poll

Would gameplay improve if claymores were removed?

Yes.22%22% - 61
No.62%62% - 168
Nerf them instead.15%15% - 41
Total: 270
DaZeD863
Member
+11|7009
someone needs a hug
-Whiteroom-
Pineapplewhat
+572|7116|BC, Canada

ljason8eg wrote:

I think all the city maps would be much better without claymores. The other maps though, are a little iffy.
yes lets remove anything that could kill you....
keeping your eyes open is also a good idea.
BigmacK
Back from the Dead.
+628|7208|Chicago.

Nicholas Langdon wrote:

yes lets remove anything that could kill you....
keeping your eyes open is also a good idea.
QFT.
8ball
Member
+1|7198
ppl who vote yes are just the flids that get owned
by clays cos they dont know how to deal with them

clays own,
take the clays out, and the tanks cos they kill me.... and the jets.... and the helis...
Fallschirmjager10
Member
+36|6918
rofl... quit bitching, same as the bunny hoppin bs, stop walking into areas without looking or expecting the path to be covered in lolipops and gum balls, its modern war.
8ball
Member
+1|7198
+1 to that man
he has some sense
CITYHUNT3R
Member
+15|6926|Winnipeg
Dude, tell me how to disarm them as an engineer! That sounds leet!
BigmacK
Back from the Dead.
+628|7208|Chicago.

CITYHUNT3R wrote:

Dude, tell me how to disarm them as an engineer! That sounds leet!
Wrench rly?

Trick is, you have to disarm them from the front...
Snipingruven
The Anti-Sniper
+12|6994|Las Vegas

BigmacK wrote:

CITYHUNT3R wrote:

Dude, tell me how to disarm them as an engineer! That sounds leet!
Wrench rly?

Trick is, you have to disarm them from the front...
LOL
manitobapaintballa
Member
+32|7076
give an option for tk on/off (which it is already) and make em destroyable with grendades/c4/artie/tanks and lets stop bitching
slash_clown
Member
+9|6924|Australia

DaZeD863 wrote:

Goven wrote:

DaZeD863 wrote:


oh really? ever used a claymore? i have... normally (im talking about like the soldier the game depicts) they are attached to a long ass cord with a little green box at the end... of which you have to squeeze to get a reaction from.. they just dont go off when an enemy walks in front of them... so yes.. take them out, turn back on ff or make them used like the c4 in game.....
Yes they do.
in game yes.. real life no... joe squeezes little green box... big ass mess where the claymore was....
The Claymore projects a fan-shaped pattern of steel balls in a 60-degree horizontal arc, at a maximum height of 2 meters, and covers a casualty radius of 100 meters. The optimum effective range (the range at which the most desirable balance is achieved between lethality and area coverage) is 50 meters. The forward danger radius for friendly forces is 250 meters. The backblast area is unsafe in unprotected areas 16 meters to the rear and sides of the munition. Friendly personnel within 100 meters to the rear and sides of the munition should be in a covered position to be safe from secondary missiles.

https://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m18-Fig4.gif

Source


The Claymore mine is typically employed in one of three modes: Controlled, Uncontrolled, and Time-delayed

Uncontrolled Mode (also known as Victim Initiated Detonation) - Uncontrolled firing is accomplished when the mine is installed in such a manner as to cause an unsuspecting enemy to detonate the mine. Mines employed in this manner must be reported and recorded as land mines. There are many mechanisms that can be used to initiate the M18A1 in uncontrolled mode, including the M142 Multipurpose Firing Device, M5 Pressure Release Device (mousetrap), tripwires, strikers, infrared sensors, acoustic & vibration sensors.

Source
SaladForks
/ph34r
+129|7040|Eastern USA

VeNg3nCe^ wrote:

Just remove the no TK option (so its like 1.12) and claymores aren't a problem.
Holy crap man...I play PoE2 a ton, and place claymores around flags and shit. I've ended rounds with -40 or more points, only because they are so damned used to TK for clays being off. I'm happy that it's unranked at all, so I don't care, but damn, you should see how many servers kick me for so many punishes. Huge red X, red on the ground, maybe of I walk into it it'll give me candy!

If they took away the no TK option, then you'd see a lot of negative scores, and if you place claymores yourself (Like I), it'll be extremely frustrating trying to explain to every freaking Bob Smith that FF is ON!
Dusk_X2
Member
+6|7149|Kansas

chuuby wrote:

you people are so fucking dumb. take this out take that out. like that one guy said lets just take out all the weapons. you fucking pussies cant handle one thing about the game you think it should eb changed. i hate planes on maps. but do i think they should remove them no i just deal with it. claymors are part of the game if you dont like it stfu and go play somethng else. just like people who cry about people using the nade launcher. its part of the fucking game so why not use it. its people like you that have ruined this game not ea. if you fucking pussies didnt cry about everything then they wouldnt have to put out all these new patches to make you cry babies happy. nerfing shit.  why not just stfu and play.
plus 1.  Totally agree! They got their fucking cake (1.4 no infantry (which should NOT be ranked)) but are they happy???!!!??? of course not.
Fallschirmjager10
Member
+36|6918
why shouldnt IO not be ranked? that make no sense at all, not everyone wants to get theyr points using a vehicle the hole game...
Kyouteki
Member
+27|7028
This may be the most pointless fucking post i've seen in awhile, and i've gotta jump on the 'quit bitching about the game' bandwagon...when i first started playing back in the bf2 1.1 days, there were real issues, like the APC being to weak to make it up gentle slopes, example: The road!  Also, the M95 being so incredibly inaccurate, or the vehicles causing to much damage when bumping people.  Now there's "don't throw this C4 like this" and "take this part out of the game that has been here since day fucking 1 (Claymores)" and the always funny and entertaining "I bunny hop better than you, but i want you nerfed so you don't out bunny me!"  Give it a rest people...concentrate on real issues like connection errors, or people being revived with no kits, blue/red nametag problems, or whatever the fuck else is a REAL concern.  I know you lot have SOME sort of common sense out there...prove it for once, holy fucking allah buddhist christ.
462nd NSP653
Devout Moderate, Empty Head.
+57|7142

VeNg3nCe^ wrote:

Just remove the no TK option (so its like 1.12) and claymores aren't a problem.
Exactly!!!!  Spamming currently has no consequences!
Kyouteki
Member
+27|7028
how do you spam 2 clamores...?
ljason8eg
Member
+3|6952

Kyouteki wrote:

how do you spam 2 clamores...?
Go to Karkand, place 2 claymores, by the time you get more ammo, you have 2 kills, place 2 more, repeat and repeat to the top of the leaderboard.
Kyouteki
Member
+27|7028

ljason8eg wrote:

Kyouteki wrote:

how do you spam 2 clamores...?
Go to Karkand, place 2 claymores, by the time you get more ammo, you have 2 kills, place 2 more, repeat and repeat to the top of the leaderboard.
It was a rhetorical question.  I mentioned to bring up the point that 'spamming' claymores is more trouble than it's worth, and this is from the guy who got his expert sniper badge.
De_Jappe
Triarii
+432|6985|Belgium

now that I have my expert explosive badge, I say yes.

Although I agree that people should stop saying: take this out, ... I must say that it's annoying to see a claymore but you can't destroy it with a grenade. If you have teamwork, just run into it and your medic will revive you, but then you give that sniper another kill... I just want to throw my nade on it again and move on instead of running into it and hoping the medic isn't a major noob.
Pice_of_paper
oBy| Back In Business
+28|6920

cospengle wrote:

Why not just remove all the weapons from the game, then we can all just hold hands and sing Kumbaya.
haha lol good point
SexyCabbage
One Shot, One Kill ... Always
+68|6938|Kentucky
if u could shoot them and they would blow up.
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|7139|Disaster Free Zone

ThomasMorgan wrote:

VeNg3nCe^ wrote:

Just remove the no TK option (so its like 1.12) and claymores aren't a problem.
Its a problem its not the 'default' option, But with FF on you either get TK's or have to be more precise/intellegent where you place them. So there is no problem. Do you bitch about a well placed C4 sandwich or grenade?
Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|7085|Warlord
I think claymores could have two things done to them to make them a little less frustrating:

Trip wire
The trip-wire option would mean they'd take a moment to set up, instead of being droppable right in the face of a squad capping a flag, that sort of thing. Plus those paying attention (and with good enough graphics!) could jump over the wire, rewarding them for paying attention and not running around blindly.

Destructable
If they remain able to identify friend from foe (IFF) they could be made destructible again by grenades or other explosions.

As for the way they are now, it promotes teamwork! Geez, how often does this have to be mentioned? Go around in a squad with at least one medic hanging back and clay-protected choke points (like the lobby and stairs of the TV stations) are little problem and there's no loss of a ticket to your team. Sure the sniper still gets the +2 for the kill, so what?
ilinear
Bigger. Better. ilinear.
+27|6903|Lisburn, NI

[mcp]eltorrente wrote:

genius_man16 wrote:

Would it improve gameplay? Not really

Would it be less irritating? fuck yes
+1. Perfect answer.

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