BF2S Forums Flashbangs / stuns in BF?

Yep, they also get it unlocked in bf2...
And I personally think that really sucks...

you know SF sucks ass without having played it huh?  wow glad to see your giving it a fair shake...

yeah flashbangs can be annoying, but look at it this way.  it could have just as easily have been a nade, and in that case youd be dead, not just temp. blinded.  i agree flashbangs in bf2 is kinda weird, and am glad they didnt add zip/grapple to bf2, tho the new weapons r pimp.

yeah most of the SF maps rock, the new weapons r pretty spiffy, and the nvg/grapple/zip/gas/flash are fun as well.  noobs that refuse to get it on 'moral grounds' are kidding themselves right out of a good gaming experience.

haha yeah, no jets ftw!

you really think theres something wrong with 'pay more, get more'?  welcome to commerce dude.

im not brown nosing the new maps, i do think they are awesome.  i like infantry combat and since its an infantry focused expansion with new gear/maps i bought it.  that was my opinion, doesnt 'shine a good light' on you to call my opinion brown nosing lol.

take your own advice when trying to take the high road dude. 

i think the games cross over because EA tried to ensure the expansion didnt kill off the playing of regular BF2(i feel some crossover to keep vanilla populated was a good idea).  i think youd be a lot happier with the crossover than only being able to find 1/10th of the servers running vanilla. 

that said, i agree though that a server setting allowing/disallowing crossover would have been a good idea, and i hope they implement something like that in a patch.

have you played Warlord yet?  god i love that map.  storming Saddam's palace or whatnot.  great streets action, and sooo easy to get across the map without touching the ground practically with the zipline/grapple.

and parachuting in above the Plaza spawn and noob tubing people below running around like ants.

a tank was in that spawn one round and i shredded him with a SRAW from my parachute, was awesome.

uber73 wrote:

wtf...
do knobbies who buy SF get flashbangs unlocked in bf2?
i been getting stunned a lot in karkand.  pissed off aint an understatement.

yes and it rocks because i am the one throwing those things at ya!..

... or the principle that EA are trying to make me pay THEM more to maintain MYSELF on a level playing field..

JEEZ people, cant u see the corporate evil here?

EA arent doing this to make u enjoy bf2 more, they are doing this so that they will fatten their bank accounts.  NOW people who have bf2 feel that they need to spend MORE to get a level playing field.  BF2 has now been relegated to a lower status, cuz those of us without sf now have, in the grand scheme, a lesser product because we have fewer items available to us.

am i the ONLY feckin cynic here re EA?

Last edited by uber73 (2005-12-11 02:10:51)

uber73 wrote:

... or the principle that EA are trying to make me pay THEM more to maintain MYSELF on a level playing field..

JEEZ people, cant u see the corporate evil here?

EA arent doing this to make u enjoy bf2 more, they are doing this so that they will fatten their bank accounts.  NOW people who have bf2 feel that they need to spend MORE to get a level playing field.  BF2 has now been relegated to a lower status, cuz those of us without sf now have, in the grand scheme, a lesser product because we have fewer items available to us.

am i the ONLY feckin cynic here re EA?

man, you need to get off your high horse and look at the real world.  companies are there to make money, not to make you feel warm and fuzzy.  they put out a damn good game to make their money off of, then a damn good expansion pack of that money making game.  makes sense yes?  yes.  you arent at that big of a disadvantage man, the weapons are different, not necessarily better.  the flashbangs are annoying but they can be avoided and dont kill u like it would if it had been a nade.  if you are that upset about not having every possible option, then buy the fucking expansion ya noob instead of spending so much time complaining go cut the neighbors grass or something and use the money to buy it.

its not corporate evil, its good business sense.  they had a hit game, then they made an x-pack for the hit game.  tons of game companies do that, do you complain every time an expansion pack comes out for other games that either make you modify it or have nobody to play with?  at least with BF2 they co-mingled the games so as to keep the playing population for the original AND the x-pack high.

Last edited by YitEarp (2005-12-11 12:46:21)

What a load of old balls.
The advantage of stun grenades is their area of effect is larger than a standard hand grenade. You can guarantee that you will incapacitate someone for the couple of seconds required to locate and kill them.
The issue that is being raised and commented on, only slightly, is the unfair advantage being given to someone who pays EA $30 more.

The extra weapons and equipment are interesting, in the context that they could easily have been incorporated into a patch. Illustrated by the fact that their affects are incorporated into the installation of the original game, without having downloaded anything. The fact that EA released a new “game”, to permit "access" to the expanded arsenal is what I find poor, but as YitEarp put it “its good business sense”. There’s always some sap that will part with his cash for any edge he can get.
Hell, that’s why the American government spent $US401.7 billion on “defense” last year. The new Crusades must continue. Sorry, I digress, like all who have gone before me.
The thing that Uber needs to think about is that the work required to bring a game to market are reaching blockbuster proportions, (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4442346.stm). If the number of games that will make a profit are going to reduce, then software companies are going to need to find out how much they can get away with. From EAs behaviour with SF and the response in this thread by the SF supporters club, they can get away with a lot.
As a final point, why does every discussion dissolve into a noob hunt? You arrogant %^%*s who have no life but to sit in front of a machine and pride yourself on being the most practiced at pressing buttons. Guess what, gameplay isn’t in the Olympics.

I do think reviews have given the game a good report. (if it was a separate game that is)

"The most astute comment I've heard about Battlefield 2 still applies to Special Forces: everything about it sucks except for the actual game. And that part -- the core gameplay that holds it all together and drives it forward for hours on end once you've finally got it up and running and reasonably stable -- remains as great as ever. But if EA's expansion packs are going to continue consisting of content that doesn't expand so much as prolong, then the least they can do is give them more forthright titles. For Special Forces, might we suggest Battlefield 2: New Maps, New Toys and Some Bugs for Thirty Bucks?"
(http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/battlefield-2-special-forces/673345p2.html)

Last edited by christt (2005-12-11 16:24:42)

Ill go out on a limb here and agree with uber73 - a bit. The new guns are not really that much to get worked up over seeing as tey are only meant to offer an alternative to the bf2 unlocks, not to replace them, but I do agree that the flashbang should either be introduces for all or left out. This is because A gun is a gun, and something like a scar can easily be stopped with a g36c, or a g3 or something, but the flashbang has no counterpart in BF2 to compete with it.

Just look at the bright side of the flash Uber at least they only brought over flashes and unlocks.  Picture if they brought over gas then some people would be getting mad, especially since there are no gas mask.