EASTERLING
Member
+0|6993|Bs.As , Argentina

jkohlc wrote:

the Type 03 looks cool
YEP!
HellGuard99
Member
+2|6975
hell, even the m249 can carry a scope. and the qbz doesnt even need a scope, its accurate enuff, i took down like 10 guys without healing with it in a row.
Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|7077|Warlord

moklin wrote:

I'm from Hong Kong, China
Nei ho ma?


HellGuard99 wrote:

hell, even the m249 can carry a scope.
Yeah, look at the Australian version of essentially the same gun, fitted with a scope as standard (lucky bastards!)
he_who_says_zonk
Member
+17|7170

PspRpg-7 wrote:

It's the People's Liberation Army, not the Chinese army, nubbins.
ha ha ha ha

ha ha ha

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

ahh

excuse me while i laugh at you.
Fenris_GreyClaw
Real Хорошо
+826|6969|Adelaide, South Australia

DeathUnlimited wrote:

It's probably about the BALANCE of the weapons. (no one liked the invincible M60/L.A.W kit in BFV...)
M-60/M-79, i liked it, and it was nerfed.

Todd_Angelo wrote:

HellGuard99 wrote:

hell, even the m249 can carry a scope.
Yeah, look at the Australian version of essentially the same gun, fitted with a scope as standard (lucky bastards!)
Austeyr FTW!

on track now,
with a game like BF2, realism isnt really a factor when it comes to weapons. all they want are guns that are easily recognisable or look cool so they can draw people into using them. i mean, how many of you knew that the AK-101 existed before BF2?
DirtyMexican
I knife Generals
+278|6987|Search Whore killing fields
Only thing I care about on China is
http://spot.colorado.edu/~zhaoh/F10.jpg
ts-pulsar
Member
+54|6953
I'm still trying to figure out why the game has one weapon doing more damage than another, when both weapons shoot the same ammo.  Like the G3 and the M24.  And by the way, the Marines don't use the M24, they use the M40.  They are both functionally the same gun, but the Marines build M40's themselves, and the Army uses the M24 which is a contracted weapon.

Oh and if we want to point out one of the biggest weapon flaws in the game.  Take a look at the M11-87 (the US shotgun), and the NOR982 (the chinese shotgun, which is jsut a copy of the 11-87).  In real life, these are semi automatic shotguns, but the fact checkers at Dice and EA obviously didn't even bother to check.


But then you can take it too far as well with the realism.  IRL you would never load an M16 magazine to the full 30 rounds, usually you load them to 28 rounds, cause IRL they have loading problems if the magazine is fully loaded
Phrozenbot
Member
+632|7066|do not disturb

MrE`158 wrote:

They're not the only weapons in the game that are a bit dated.

The G3 and the PKM are pretty ancient, by modern firearm standards.

And the SRAW and Eryx are Cold War-era weapons that us poor BF2 anti-tankers are supposed to deploy against those 21st centruy tanks....

It's mostly done for stylistic reasons, I'd guess.  Poor research may have some to do with it, as may a desire to include the AK-47 (what respectable shooter doesn't have one of those available?).
Hmmm, I think you're right about the Eryx. The SRAW is post cold war era though. Tanks are really vulnerable to AT missiles, I don't care how 'modern' they are. They still leave nasty scars on tanks if they fail to destroy it.

I do agree with you. Some of the research was a little poor. It's possible that what was used was because of the opinion of Dice, rather than dipecting them as more modern. The PLA has it's own AT rocket for infantry, but making one Eryx can be used for MEC and the PLA. That's what I call 'cutting corners', to get a game done faster. Same thing with the HJ-8.

And the JS submachinegun is more modern and more attractive than the Type 85. I could slap that together in my garage. Really, it looks like a grease gun.
Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|7077|Warlord

Fenris_GreyClaw wrote:

Todd_Angelo wrote:

HellGuard99 wrote:

hell, even the m249 can carry a scope.
Yeah, look at the Australian version of essentially the same gun, fitted with a scope as standard (lucky bastards!)
Austeyr FTW!
Hehe. But not the Steyr, the Australian version of the Minimi; basically an M249 with some cosmetic differences.

Fenris_GreyClaw wrote:

...how many of you knew that the AK-101 existed before BF2?
*holds up hand*


ts-pulsar wrote:

I'm still trying to figure out why the game has one weapon doing more damage than another, when both weapons shoot the same ammo.
Yeah, that's an eternal mystery isn't it? Look at all the guns that fire 5.56mm NATO and their wide range of damage ratings. AK-101 v. M16A2... WTF?

ts-pulsar wrote:

Oh and if we want to point out one of the biggest weapon flaws in the game.  Take a look at the M11-87 (the US shotgun), and the NOR982 (the chinese shotgun, which is jsut a copy of the 11-87).  In real life, these are semi automatic shotguns, but the fact checkers at Dice and EA obviously didn't even bother to check.
Might have been deliberate, who knows?

ts-pulsar wrote:

But then you can take it too far as well with the realism.  IRL you would never load an M16 magazine to the full 30 rounds, usually you load them to 28 rounds, cause IRL they have loading problems if the magazine is fully loaded
All the time?? That's a pretty bloody major flaw IMB... two less rounds might make a heck of a difference.
Fenris_GreyClaw
Real Хорошо
+826|6969|Adelaide, South Australia

Todd_Angelo wrote:

Fenris_GreyClaw wrote:

Todd_Angelo wrote:


Yeah, look at the Australian version of essentially the same gun, fitted with a scope as standard (lucky bastards!)
Austeyr FTW!
Hehe. But not the Steyr, the Australian version of the Minimi; basically an M249 with some cosmetic differences.
Oh, that thing. well they both have scpoes as standard so

Todd_Angelo wrote:

Fenris_GreyClaw wrote:

...how many of you knew that the AK-101 existed before BF2?
*holds up hand*
You seem to know a lot about a lot. you dont count
moklin
Member
+2|6849|Hong Kong, China

Todd_Angelo wrote:

moklin wrote:

I'm from Hong Kong, China
Nei ho ma?
I'm fine, thx
Lucien
Fantasma Parastasie
+1,451|7103

moklin wrote:

Todd_Angelo wrote:

moklin wrote:

I'm from Hong Kong, China
Nei ho ma?
I'm fine, thx
ii tenki, des ne?

(sorry)
https://i.imgur.com/HTmoH.jpg
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7071|London, England
And to make things more realistic the teams need to be heavily stacked on the PLA's side to show they have more g00ns than the U.S Marines.

Wait a minute...  *thinks*....*Wake Island....everyone switches to China*..

..Oh yeah! GG Dice!
Kurazoo
Pheasant Plucker
+440|7134|West Yorkshire, U.K
It might be something to do with copywrite, the chinese army might not hav liked it i dunno.

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