deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6917|Connecticut

Reciprocity wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

What I dont understand is Lettermans obvious contradiction. He says he wants American soldiers to stop dying but then asks why we are not immediately invading North Korea instead of Iraq. Military actions take considerable planning to minimize casualty. He understands that right? Any thoughts please share but dont attack me. I dont have the energy tonight because a tree fell on my garage (dont worry the boat is ok).
wow, such insight.  Letterman wasnt suggesting that we should invade North Korea.  The point he was making was that we invaded Iraq because we thought Hussein had weapons, We know NK has weapons but we aren't invading.  Why? 

And if military actions take so much planning then why are we now stuck in the quagmire that is Iraq?  Ooh, lemme guess your response. 

"Wrong, dumbass, the invasion was a complete success.   We kicked Hussein's ass."

and that's a neat, child-like, if not semantical response.
Why are you so angry? Why attack me and make assumptions to my response? Go get laid. I never said he thought we should invade NK ( he asked why we werent) , I was giving a reason why we werent. Which is the question he asked.

Last edited by deeznutz1245 (2006-10-28 20:57:29)

Malloy must go
Recoil555
A God Amongst Men
+26|6877|UK
ATG im glad i got under your skin and someone gave me karma for it lol that makes me laugh .. i suppose hes next comment will be yeh he has 5 karma we shudnt value his opinion , as for the question your right but i have read quite a few of your post to know ,"He's a typical left wing media idiot ( letterman ). It never ceases to amaze me how people take the words of actors and entertainers as something of value." you dont have to be academic to have view ... i dont give fuck what either have to say  really but thats besides the point is your just saying he is an idiot because you dont like what he says end of story really .. your right wing so you trash left wing its just boring get an original opinion one you might develop yourself?

Last edited by Recoil555 (2006-10-28 20:46:05)

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ATG wrote:

Recoil555 wrote:

No one listens to ATG because they know hes a cunt ...
Okay genius.
I could report your post and get you banned. Care to delete it?
Lol, the quoting leaves the post here so deleting is worthless. And I would argue some of the points here but at best,t that video was entertaining. I didn't learn anything new, except that letterman is great at interrupting. But it was nice to hear someone admit that they were wrong about WMD.
Recoil555
A God Amongst Men
+26|6877|UK
i admit rather harsh .. but he did report it and it was deleted the oringinal hehe didnt get banned tho because woudnt usually say anything to anyone else

Last edited by Recoil555 (2006-10-28 20:51:46)

Recoil555
A God Amongst Men
+26|6877|UK
ATG i dont know you i just comment on what ive seen but  cant believe you used different words with the same mean to call me a retard again lol its just amazing have you something against the mentally deficient ? says more about you than me i wont flame you any further because it might make you happy.

but on topic i think lettermans right even if he says it for the totally wrong reasons to be popularist because thats the trend atm to be pissed off with iraq but i mean send the troops to korea wtf he rather they die somewhere else i didnt see where that was going really so generally i think both chatting various styles of bollox but i hate media in generally it paints so many different picture when only one matters the truth not different shades of the truth.

lol im child because i didnt correct a typo straight away which i did as 10 seconds after i post but you spent time watching the page for an answer like ... like i suppose a child ?

Last edited by Recoil555 (2006-10-28 21:12:01)

RoosterCantrell
Goodbye :)
+399|6904|Somewhere else

Letterman proved not much, threw in a few questions alot were wondering (Invaded Iraq but not North Korea for WMDs), and didn't let Bill speak. Bill doesn't allow people to speak on his show, unless the guest is agreeing with him. Big deal.  Left wing right wing. meh, its all the same.  Anyone who labels themselves, right wing left wing democrate republican, fascist, communist, whatever, is closing off thier mind to different possibilites that don't agree with thier own belief structure.  Bill O'Rielly is in the same boat as Ann Coulter IMO.   Closed minded people who won't listen to reason or new ideas.  Intelligent people, yes, they would be nobodies if they weren't but close minded none the less.

Political beliefs are like religeous beliefs. Some people are so passionate about thier politics that there really is no use trying to argue to them about it. Letterman isn't funny. Bill O'reily is a tool.

See link for proof :    http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net … ll_oreilly
CommieChipmunk
Member
+488|6994|Portland, OR, USA
Recoil555, i haven't seen you before but i completely agree with just about everything you just said.  ATG, you'll show him up and take him on on any topic?  So what does that prove.  That you are "good" at debating because you don't listen to anyone but yourself.  Although much of it is opinion, no ones ever 100% right...

anywho, funny video, its nice to see O'Reilly get pwnd, even if it was by david letterman
Recoil555
A God Amongst Men
+26|6877|UK
lol i didnt know what i started did i have not posted much no and my first or almost first post i got 4 karma for and then one karma for cussing you so no i dont have as much karma as you so maybe you shouldnt listen to me but i sure the people that made this forum didnt mean for people to look down on others if they dont have karma and i said thats what you would say in last post and you actually prove me right do you want me to show you up this badly i mean you call me a kid but shall we just shut our mouths i talk properly on subject.Then to agree to disagree fundementally and im sorry that i flamed you in the first place it seem funny at the time but now it seems like a waste of my life.

Last edited by Recoil555 (2006-10-30 07:41:43)

Recoil555
A God Amongst Men
+26|6877|UK
lol I'm in the gutter..  (what the hell) ... climbing out ..  more incoherent ramblings SHUT UP for god sake

come on lets just drop it now atg lets not bring anyone else into it or even continue this im sure its a waste of time for both of us

Last edited by Recoil555 (2006-10-28 21:49:13)

ATG
Banned
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Yawn...fine.
RoosterCantrell
Goodbye :)
+399|6904|Somewhere else

Recoil555 wrote:

lol i didnt know what i started did i have not posted much no and my first or almost first post i got 4 karma for and then one karma for cussing you so no i dont have as much karma as you so maybe you shouldnt listen to me but i sure the people that made this forum didnt mean for people to look down on others if they dont have karma and and i said thats what you would say in last post and you actually prove me right do you want me to show you up this badly i mean you call me a kid but shall we just shut our mouths i talk properly on subject. and agree to disagree fundementally and im sorry that i flamed you in the first place it seem funny at the time but now it seems like a waste of my life.
And on a lighter note; the fact that you used periods in your post seems to me that you had some intentions of using grammar. Which makes your first sentence the longest run on sentence I have ever had the displeasure of reading. Nice!
Catbox
forgiveness
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I am a huge Letterman fan but he really came across as an idiot...  He gives O'Reilly  a hard time about his factor show and then says.... duhhh  I've never watched it...  Letterman is very funny but he should stick to making people laugh... O'Reilly... like him or not looked like he wanted to have an educated debate and Dave
oversimplified or made a joke out of everything he could... and even looked flustered when Bill asked him if he wanted to win in Iraq...

I watch O'Reilly on FOX and i have to say he calls people on their shit all the time... left or right... he also has helped to bring light to injustices around the US...
Judges that are lenient... child predators... He is obviously conservative but out of all the different News shows he tries to be objective... and he stands up for what he believes in...   Is he arrogant... yes... but i think overall he wants what is to be a champion for decency...
Love is the answer
ATG
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[TUF]Catbox wrote:

I am a huge Letterman fan b


I watch O'Reilly on FOX and i have to say he calls people on their shit all the time... left or right... he also has helped to bring light to injustices around the US...
Judges that are lenient... child predators... He is obviously conservative but out of all the different News shows he tries to be objective... and he stands up for what he believes in...   Is he arrogant... yes... but i think overall he wants what is to be a champion for decency...
I agree with everything you've said.
I wonder if anybody pouncing on this thread actually listens to his radio show.

He's very bland and pragmatic, yet thought provoking because of his dogma of a no bullshit rule.
He advocates a naval blockcade of Korea and disagrees with our fiasco* in Iraq. This is mentioned by me as to point out that he is middle of the road.
I think he has a great face for radio and his television show makes me uncomfortable; he looks perpetually like he has to take a dump or is having gas.
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|7114|Tampa Bay Florida
Although I agree with Letterman, I think he should layoff sometimes.  He's very annoying.  His comedy sucks, and though in a lot of ways O'Reilly sucks, he's not the lying scumbag a lot of liberals like to think of him.  He might have some flaws, but so do a lot of talk show people.  Not to say that I like his show... but a lot of people out there hardly even watch it yet say how bad it is.  He actually gives thought to a lot of his responses.

Conan O Brian pwns David Letterman anyway.

Last edited by Spearhead (2006-10-28 23:08:45)

Recoil555
A God Amongst Men
+26|6877|UK

RoosterCantrell wrote:

Recoil555 wrote:

lol i didnt know what i started did i have not posted much no and my first or almost first post i got 4 karma for and then one karma for cussing you so no i dont have as much karma as you so maybe you shouldnt listen to me but i sure the people that made this forum didnt mean for people to look down on others if they dont have karma and and i said thats what you would say in last post and you actually prove me right do you want me to show you up this badly i mean you call me a kid but shall we just shut our mouths i talk properly on subject. and agree to disagree fundementally and im sorry that i flamed you in the first place it seem funny at the time but now it seems like a waste of my life.
And on a lighter note; the fact that you used periods in your post seems to me that you had some intentions of using grammar. Which makes your first sentence the longest run on sentence I have ever had the displeasure of reading. Nice!
thanks its very poor but hey you understood it
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
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The_Shipbuilder wrote:

O'Reilly: Do you want the United States to win in Iraq?
Letterman: First of all-
O'Reilly: [interrupting] No, it's an easy question. If you don't want the United States to win in Iraq-
Letterman: [interrupting] It's not easy for me, because I'm thoughtful.
Letterman's had years of practice...and all that for one crappy comeback. That's junior-high debate material, there.

That being said, I watch neither of them.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2006-10-28 23:27:28)

ATG
Banned
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Recoil555 wrote:

lol I'm in the gutter..  (what the hell) ... climbing out ..  more incoherent ramblings SHUT UP for god sake

come on lets just drop it now atg lets not bring anyone else into it or even continue this im sure its a waste of time for both of us
Can I at least post a pix of my mental image of you?
kthnx.
https://i13.tinypic.com/42icvwo.jpg
CommieChipmunk
Member
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my respect for your arguments have dropped by a considerable margin^^
The_Shipbuilder
Stay the corpse
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Guys, calm down. We should all respect Bill O'Reilly for the decades of hard-hitting journalism with which he has blessed us.

<[onex]>Headstone
Member
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CommieChipmunk wrote:

my respect for your arguments have dropped by a considerable margin^^
HEY, I thought it was a funny pic, especially when the poster insulted him in an earlier post, he basically threaten to Kill him and bash his head in(have copy of that one) Even on a message board thats unlawful and against the TOS of this forum. So whats the beef here? Should i remind you what he said?

The offending post was Deleted after brought to the attention of the Mods, But what the poster said was well over the line for even a 12 year old to say. Whatever his age, the post was to far over the line of decency.

Last edited by <[onex]>Headstone (2006-10-29 04:02:25)

Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
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Saddam was the the WMD in Iraq.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6830|North Carolina

ATG wrote:

bakarocket wrote:

ATG wrote:

Letterman, of course, nice try though.
Right. O'Reilly is a television personality with no more training in anything than Letterman. SO what you actually meant to say was,

"It never ceases to amaze me how people take the words of actors and entertainers who I disagree with as something of value."

Right?
From Bill O'Rielly's biography;
Born in Manhattan and raised on Long Island, Bill O'Reilly holds a degree in History from Marist College, a Master's in Broadcast Journalism from Boston University and another Master's Degree in Public Administration from Harvard's Kennedy School of Government.
heres what I can find on Letterman;
Letterman attended Ball State University in Muncie, Indiana... He was married to college sweetheart Michelle Cook from 1970-1977... He was once an all-purpose announcer on station WLWI in Indianapolis, a job which included introducing movies and serving as a substitute weatherman.

edit*  you take your Hollywood deep thinkers like Alec Baldwin and Sean Penn.
They are embarrassing morons, you can have them.
ATG, I just have to intervene here for a second.  I've never defended Letterman as a "deep thinker" of any sort, but to suggest that O'Reilly is....  yeah, you might want to retract that....

Last edited by Turquoise (2006-10-29 08:43:28)

ATG
Banned
+5,233|6954|Global Command
Um no.

HAVE YOU EVER LISTEN TO HIS SHOW?
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6830|North Carolina

deeznutz1245 wrote:

What I dont understand is Lettermans obvious contradiction. He says he wants American soldiers to stop dying but then asks why we are not immediately invading North Korea instead of Iraq. Military actions take considerable planning to minimize casualty. He understands that right? Any thoughts please share but dont attack me. I dont have the energy tonight because a tree fell on my garage (dont worry the boat is ok).
Sorry to hear about your garage, and while I agree that suggesting we should invade North Korea is rather dumb, I believe Letterman was just implying how the WMD justification for war was false.  As O'Reilly said, this discovery proved that various intelligence sources were wrong.  And yes, if you go back to the late 90's, even Clinton was suggesting that we should invade Iraq -- but the key here is that Clinton didn't want to go forth with it unless we had the world's support.

The U.N. didn't approve of invading Iraq, so doing so with a limited "Coalition of the Willing" put a lot more financial burden on us.  I personally was against invading Iraq even with U.N. support, but if Bush had received it, then he'd be in a much better situation now.  Basically, if this operation had failed with the world's support behind us, then no one could blame us for trying.  That not being the case, it's easy for most of the world to ridicule this decision.

Last edited by Turquoise (2006-10-29 09:01:28)

Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6830|North Carolina

ATG wrote:

Um no.

HAVE YOU EVER LISTEN TO HIS SHOW?
Please elaborate...  I've seen The O'Reilly Factor several times.  He's no intellectual.

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